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Instruction manuals: (C/O BentKa)

Xray XB2 Carpet Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...ual_v2_low.pdf

Xray XB2 Dirt Edition Instruction Manual
http://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/dow...w.pdf?update=2

BentKa: Carpet Edition 4 gear to 3 gear laydown conversion parts:
  • Gearbox #323014
  • Motorplate #324012
  • 36T idler gear #324236
  • Brace for waterfall #324031


Socket: Bodies Available:

Xray has two OEM bodies, the .75mm and the .50mm light weight:
light weight: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-xb...329701/p492942

OEM .75mm: https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-0....329700/p477762

Also, I've fitted the yz2 body, both the light and regular fit fine, just make your own cut lines:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/yokomo-...z2-101/p417674


[i] J Concepts S2 Body [i]


Penguin Racing makes a high grip body that fits the DE and CE:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-Ray-Xb2-Hi...oAAOSw1S9WewHV



Socket: Wheel fitment:

According to some, you'll require different offset rear hexes to use B5M wheels. According to my Hudy setup board, B5M wheels are the same offset. I measured the overall width of the car with XB2 wheels, and then again with B5M wheels, same measurement.

On the front, B5M wheels were 1.5mm wider. Xray offers hexes to reduce width -.75 on each side, or you could spend 3-5 minutes and sand your OEM hexes down .75mm.

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here are the hubs for losi and AE

for AE Front 365354 -0.75
for Losi rear 365358 +3.00 (4 stripe)
for AE rear 365359 +3.75 (5 stripe) or add 1.5mm carbon avid spacers



Socket: Flex and the XB2:

Flex screws are as follows:

Plastic bulkhead between motor and waterfall. Can remove screw in chassis, or remove bulkhead altogether.

Waterfall has 4 screws, can remove the inner two or outer two. IIRC, removing the inner two provides more flex, and thus more bite.

Removing the battery brace. This gives a tremendous amount of flex on the middle of the car, and can sometimes be inconsistent. I do this for outdoor racing on low bite. I like the feel over the 4 gear in 17.5 racing, since the 4 gear will take some snap away off the corner.

Rear C block - has inner and outer screws. I haven't played with this, as it's a crucial pivot point of the car.

Medium arms and towers -> I don't believe the carpet car has the rear medium tower available, however the DE DOES have an optional hard part. I think the hard parts are more consistent, especially when it gets hot (90+ degrees F). However, the medium parts do NOT break unless you're severely talented. They also don't wear out.



Socket: Avid/Schelle Slipper mod:

Credit to WillS, Matt Trimmings, and myself for figuring this out months ago.

Parts you'll need:

B5M V2 3gear compatible top shaft.
TKO Special 5x13x5 bear OR 5x13x6 bearing Either can work. This replaces the spur side bearing on the top shaft.
5mm shims, same shims used in 1/8th scale clutch bells. Look for protek .1mm and .2mm kit.
Avid or Schelle b5m top shaft kit, with spur gears of your choosing. (DE can't handle a 69, the CE can)

Shimming: You'll need to install the bearing in the front portion of the removable piece for the shaft. Make sure the bearing is pushed all the way in. With the TKO bearing, you'll need to shim approximately 1.4mm on the front side of the top shaft. Roughly .3-.5mm with the other bearing. This is a "feel" and tolerance setting. I urge you to watch videos about setting clutch bell play in 1/8th scale to get an idea of what yield you want for end play. Too tight, it'll eat bearings.

Outside of trans case: Use Avid/Schelle top shaft spacer plus .2mm shim to offset slipper from motor plate perfectly. Install slipper as instructed, and use Avid/Schelle spring and XB2 slipper nut.

- NEW - Schelle now sells Xb2 Topshafts. They include a spacer, so no need for shims in gearbox, and comes with the smaller bearing. Both methods work.

Socket: Yokomo Differential or MIP pucks:

Credit to: WillS for figuring out pucks, and as well fitting the Losi 22 diff with the same mods.

Parts needed: Yokomo Bmax2 or YZ2 complete diff OR Mip PUCKS outdrives
Xb2 diff gear
Bmax2 V3 Worlds rear dog bones, or Bmax 2 pucks dog bones
You'll use XB2 axles, and will require no other mods for the axles or dog bones.
You'll need .2mm outdrive/diff shims. Shim approximately .5mm on each side of the diff, behind the bearings. The top portion of the transmission is what "sets" the diff in place, not the bottom half. A little play back and forth is fine, the stock diff has some play from the factory.

dgrobe2112: CE to DE conversion:
along with the parts needed.. you MUST have these following hardware, or it wont work

https://www.teamxray.com/xb2/2016/do...conversion.pdf

(3) XRAY 902340 M3x40 button head screws. these are the screws that mount the motor mount to the tranny
(4) XRAY 903322 M3x22 counter sunk screws. these are for the rear diff case, to mount to the chassis. i think i used some M3x18 and they worked ok.

Socket: Best method for setting up the XB2 ball diff:

The XB2 diff is stellar when setup correctly. The spring is too short and soft, allowing the diff to slip. You'll need to glue the rings to the outdrives with just a drop of CA, then add a 1mm shim between the spring and the outdrive. This preloads the spring and stops the diff from slipping so easily.

OR, you can run the AE diff spring, which is both slightly longer, and stiffer. The overwhelming issue is the stock spring allows the nut to bottom out on the outdrive before the diff is tight enough.

This shim:
https://www.amainhobbies.com/xray-al...a303122/p12070

This diff spring (don't need a shim, then.)

https://www.teamassociated.com/parts...thrust_spring/

Functional Aftermarket parts: (Not just bling!)

Servo Horn: (The B5M sized horns are too short to get full throw)
https://www.amainhobbies.com/protek-...800-bk/p273496


Socket: Exotek has a full suite of parts, some bling, some not. Here's a list (all fit DE and CE, unless otherwise noted):

Titanium front axles: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-titanium-front-axles-2/

Rear Hanger, HD (Adds 4 grams): http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...75-heavy-duty/

Brass C block, 18 grams added: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-rear...-brass-weight/

Alloy front camber mount: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-fron...er-mount-7075/

Carbon Fiber Chassis: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-carb...m-plate-2-5mm/

Alloy rear hubs:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-allo...ub-set-2-7075/

Alloy servo mounts, allow for use of LP servo:http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...-alloy-1-pair/

Titanium shock mounts: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-xb4-...shock-posts-2/

Slipper Eliminator: http://www.exotekracing.com/xb2-direct-spur-mount/
Xray eliminator is #324100

dgrobe2112: 2016-2017 new 3 gear laydown
Gearbox #323014
Motor plate #324012
36T idler gear #324236
Brace for waterfall #324031

dgrobe2112: Xray Spring Rate Conversion:
front C WHT
368174 2 str 0.65-0.85 3.71-4.85

358184 2 dot 0.65 3.71
368185 3 dot 0.72 4.11
368186 4 dot 0.80 4.57


Rear
368273 2 str 0.35-0.45 2.00-2.57

368284 1 Dot 0.35 2.00
368285 2 Dot 0.40 2.28
368286 3 Dot 0.45 2.57
368287 4 Dot 0.50 2.86

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Old 03-21-2020, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by E-Mann
When you use 2 metal gears, are you also using the larger metal gears or just the two satellite gears?
Do you use the stock 4 gear crossbar or the single aluminum?
2 of the 4 smaller satellite gears. Single alum or metal pin.
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Very common mod to the transmission brace to remove the center rib.

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Building a gear diff, best to use a scale for ultimate in consistency and takes the guess work out adding diff oil.





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I tried 2 gear 20k. Stopped it diffing out with 2 gear 10k. Steering was still very good, car is stable and fast. No compaints.
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Hi,
First XB2 build, coming to XB2C 20 from AE6.1. Running on outdoor astro. where do you guys set the CoG between front and rear?
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Has anyone tried the black shock bodies from xray? I know there's no performance advantage, just curious how a blacked out shock would look like. Probably very cool
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Anyone put the 2020 arms on their older Xb2s? Front or rear, thinking about putting the fronts and the dirt rears to make a dirt car out of a 2019.
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Originally Posted by ChadoSan
Anyone put the 2020 arms on their older Xb2s? Front or rear, thinking about putting the fronts and the dirt rears to make a dirt car out of a 2019.
Fronts are easy, the 2020 arms are a direct fit. You also need the eccentric bushings for the shock ball joints to work with the new arms. Note the 2020 arms have the lower shock mounting (LSM). The 2019 arms are actually still optional arms for the 2020 car.

The rear is a different story. The 2020 rear end is narrower than the 2019 and prior. The hangers are different. You can try the 2020 dirt arms on the 2019 but not sure of the results.
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Hey guys! I started racing 2wd buggy this winter with a xb2c -19 and am now getting the -20 car. Did any of you guys have problems getting the drive shaft to sit right on the xb2? Depending on different settings on the -19 I have found it hard to get it to the right length, either it risks hitting the diff on full up travel or popping out of the outputs. Remember this is with the adjustable drive axle (#325341). Have they extended the outputs on the -20 car or how are you supposed to get it right with the new drive axle with fixed mounting position?
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Originally Posted by Calle Pe
Hey guys! I started racing 2wd buggy this winter with a xb2c -19 and am now getting the -20 car. Did any of you guys have problems getting the drive shaft to sit right on the xb2? Depending on different settings on the -19 I have found it hard to get it to the right length, either it risks hitting the diff on full up travel or popping out of the outputs. Remember this is with the adjustable drive axle (#325341). Have they extended the outputs on the -20 car or how are you supposed to get it right with the new drive axle with fixed mounting position?
No issues with the 20 spec. The outdrives have more depth and overall surface area so it removes the issue the 19 had.
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Just about ready to order an XB2D 2020. Going to wait until Friday and see if any discount coupons sweeten the deal. With any of my cars I'm kind of obsessed with wanting to upgrade with all the aluminum bits and pieces. Is there any aftermarket to speak of for these components? I know xray makes a lot of things themselves but those prices! I do know you get what you pay for. Fortunately the price of wear items like suspension arms and such aren't too bad. And from what I hear from owners replacement parts aren't needed very often
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Originally Posted by Milkdudd
Just about ready to order an XB2D 2020. Going to wait until Friday and see if any discount coupons sweeten the deal. With any of my cars I'm kind of obsessed with wanting to upgrade with all the aluminum bits and pieces. Is there any aftermarket to speak of for these components? I know xray makes a lot of things themselves but those prices! I do know you get what you pay for. Fortunately the price of wear items like suspension arms and such aren't too bad. And from what I hear from owners replacement parts aren't needed very often
Race kits are a bit different. Aluminum is good for some things. But there standard stuff is better then most upgrades.

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Originally Posted by Billy Kelly
Race kits are a bit different. Aluminum is good for some things. But there standard stuff is better then most upgrades.
Thanks Billy. Actually I did plan on doing a little bit less with this car. Probably the front and rear camber link mounts. Maybe the front suspension pivot block. Maybe the servo mounts just to get some orange bling. Is Xray branded stuff the only game in town for these or is there some aftermarket quality stuff?
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Originally Posted by Milkdudd
Thanks Billy. Actually I did plan on doing a little bit less with this car. Probably the front and rear camber link mounts. Maybe the front suspension pivot block. Maybe the servo mounts just to get some orange bling. Is Xray branded stuff the only game in town for these or is there some aftermarket quality stuff?
Honestly I’ve never looked. I just started running carpet buggy last November. I bought mine used, I’ve put a set of tires on it and nothing else been needed.

Is this your first race grade kit? If so you’ll find there a quite a different feel from the other brands.
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Hi all,

I have just bought the 2020 dirt version. This is my first buggy until now club raced only sct. I have a low profile savox sb-2263MG servo. My question is how can I install this servo in the car? The plastic servo holder interfeer with the cabel on the side of the sero? Is there a conversion pice or I have to dremel the orignal part to fit?

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