lite weight ebuggy options and questions
12-04-2013, 03:53 PM
#32
I'm in the same boat as you... And 1/10th buggies drive nothing these drive.
12-05-2013, 04:16 AM
#35
There is some interest in this class here locally, but unless our tracks get together and decide on the rules I don't see it going anywhere. There has to be some limits on motors and cells or what's the point? You're still going to have way overpowered 6-7+ pound buggies tearing up the track and scaring corner marshalls. Other than a convenient way to convert an scte or tekno truck to ebuggy, what's this going to accomplish? You're still going to have guys show up with 4 cells and 2050 motors.
Should the limit be on max motor kV for number of cells, like 4000kv on 2s or 1600kv on 4s, or just say 2-4 cells but only 540 or 550 motors? What do you guys think?
Should the limit be on max motor kV for number of cells, like 4000kv on 2s or 1600kv on 4s, or just say 2-4 cells but only 540 or 550 motors? What do you guys think?
12-05-2013, 12:29 PM
#37
There is some interest in this class here locally, but unless our tracks get together and decide on the rules I don't see it going anywhere. There has to be some limits on motors and cells or what's the point? You're still going to have way overpowered 6-7+ pound buggies tearing up the track and scaring corner marshalls. Other than a convenient way to convert an scte or tekno truck to ebuggy, what's this going to accomplish? You're still going to have guys show up with 4 cells and 2050 motors.
Should the limit be on max motor kV for number of cells, like 4000kv on 2s or 1600kv on 4s, or just say 2-4 cells but only 540 or 550 motors? What do you guys think?
Should the limit be on max motor kV for number of cells, like 4000kv on 2s or 1600kv on 4s, or just say 2-4 cells but only 540 or 550 motors? What do you guys think?
My friend and I were both excited about building some lightweight buggies up . He got his done before I really got started and I am glad it worked out that way. He had a converted 810 with a castle 2400 on 3s , and while it was fast , it was pointless. It would never keep up outdoors and our indoor track is to small for it to be anymore fun then a 1/10 4x4 buggy. His is for sale now , and I traded all my parts for a dex410... Now , other peoples tracks may be different , but for us , it really was a wasted exercise .
12-05-2013, 12:56 PM
#38
There is some interest in this class here locally, but unless our tracks get together and decide on the rules I don't see it going anywhere. There has to be some limits on motors and cells or what's the point? You're still going to have way overpowered 6-7+ pound buggies tearing up the track and scaring corner marshalls. Other than a convenient way to convert an scte or tekno truck to ebuggy, what's this going to accomplish? You're still going to have guys show up with 4 cells and 2050 motors.
Should the limit be on max motor kV for number of cells, like 4000kv on 2s or 1600kv on 4s, or just say 2-4 cells but only 540 or 550 motors? What do you guys think?
Should the limit be on max motor kV for number of cells, like 4000kv on 2s or 1600kv on 4s, or just say 2-4 cells but only 540 or 550 motors? What do you guys think?
12-05-2013, 01:20 PM
#39
Tech Initiate
excellent post & timing, I just received my stuff to complete a 2S project myself, based on the Edam Zoom. Target is to reach the 10' on a small indoor track, and also get the car lighter to spare the belt transmission. Pictures tomorrow when it's assembled.
12-05-2013, 01:32 PM
#40
My point is guys want to start this class to be able to run at the indoor tracks. They don't allow regular 1/8 scale ebuggys to race because of the safety factor. So if there are no rules what's going to separate this class from ebuggy? There has to be some limits on how much power you can run.
12-05-2013, 01:40 PM
#41
Just call it a short course buggy class.
same general rules as sct, but buggy body, wings, wheels etc... the goal being to let people use what they already have, instead of buying complete new setups.
I think the second you let people run 4 cell, you will immediately have people that abuse the class... and tracks that don't allow e-buggies still won't allow this.
I have always been a big proponent of letting SCT run more than 2 cell, but this class just won't need it, IMO. I don't care if you run a normal 1/8 scale buggy, as long as it is on 2 cell...
same general rules as sct, but buggy body, wings, wheels etc... the goal being to let people use what they already have, instead of buying complete new setups.
I think the second you let people run 4 cell, you will immediately have people that abuse the class... and tracks that don't allow e-buggies still won't allow this.
I have always been a big proponent of letting SCT run more than 2 cell, but this class just won't need it, IMO. I don't care if you run a normal 1/8 scale buggy, as long as it is on 2 cell...
12-09-2013, 02:49 PM
#43
I run 2s in my Mugen SCT convesion and Tekno truck (basically the EB48) and the motor doesn't get over 150°… they can handle the weight.
I would like to see the class allow 3s kind of like rcgod was talking about with a max kv depending on what voltage your running to get roughly the same max rpm out if the different setups though. Could run a 3s in standard 2s hard case, that would rock.
Back to the theme of this thread, I think the new tech 1/10 4 poles have enough to push around a light 1/8 without issue and is how I would build one. A big outdoor, no, but a normal size indoor, yes.
I would like to see the class allow 3s kind of like rcgod was talking about with a max kv depending on what voltage your running to get roughly the same max rpm out if the different setups though. Could run a 3s in standard 2s hard case, that would rock.
Back to the theme of this thread, I think the new tech 1/10 4 poles have enough to push around a light 1/8 without issue and is how I would build one. A big outdoor, no, but a normal size indoor, yes.
12-09-2013, 05:48 PM
#44
I am building this as an indoor buggy only. Outdoor will be a 4s buggy for sure unless it's a small low traction track then the lite buggy will come back out of the trailer. I ran a ve8 last year and to be honest not very happy with it. I never could get it to feel like my nitro buggy.
01-23-2014, 11:32 AM
#45
Bringing this thread back to the top.
My idea for rules would be simple, since this is a "lite" class, all that needs to be done is limit the max weight. Since the minimum weight for 8th scale buggies is 7lbs, maybe the max weight for these could be somewhere around 6-6.5 lbs? As far as battery and motor rules, just leave them open. If you want a little enforcement, limit it anything that's ROAR approved (4s, 3s, 2s, 8th scale motors, 540 motors, anything). This way people coming from 8th scale can keep some of their stuff and people coming from 10th scale can keep theirs. In the future, I could see maybe limiting battery dimensions to the current 10th scale rules (thus still allowing 4s 3500 packs), motors with a smaller diameter can be longer (like T8i's or 550 4poles), and motors with a larger diameter to a shorter length (like Neu 1506s and 1509s).
Another thing you could do to increase class numbers is allow SC tires and wheels. For those that are currently running 4x4 SC allowing those wheels and tires would greatly reduce the cost of getting into a new class.
Anyway, these are just my opinions, I would love to see some more discussion on the class and find out what tracks are doing.
My idea for rules would be simple, since this is a "lite" class, all that needs to be done is limit the max weight. Since the minimum weight for 8th scale buggies is 7lbs, maybe the max weight for these could be somewhere around 6-6.5 lbs? As far as battery and motor rules, just leave them open. If you want a little enforcement, limit it anything that's ROAR approved (4s, 3s, 2s, 8th scale motors, 540 motors, anything). This way people coming from 8th scale can keep some of their stuff and people coming from 10th scale can keep theirs. In the future, I could see maybe limiting battery dimensions to the current 10th scale rules (thus still allowing 4s 3500 packs), motors with a smaller diameter can be longer (like T8i's or 550 4poles), and motors with a larger diameter to a shorter length (like Neu 1506s and 1509s).
Another thing you could do to increase class numbers is allow SC tires and wheels. For those that are currently running 4x4 SC allowing those wheels and tires would greatly reduce the cost of getting into a new class.
Anyway, these are just my opinions, I would love to see some more discussion on the class and find out what tracks are doing.