Hot Bodies D413 1/10 4WD Buggy
#1456
Tech Addict
it's hard to find a low bite track in our neck of the woods. the times i've run into low bite conditions is when they just put in a new layout at IERC. in those situations i just drop the center diff from 100k to 60k.
#1457
Just read through the manual and I am really excited! Not sure what you guys are talking about with screw count, it doesn't look like any more or less than any other 4WD buggy I have built. Maybe if you count the arm stiffeners, but those are optional. The carbon/plastic hybrid steering components adds a couple screws, I would argue the pros outweighs the added weight.
The only thing I see that might be an issue for me is that the inner ballstud for the rear turn buckles are through hole with a nut on the top. It looks like it might be hard to swap holes, but maybe there is enough room to get a ball head driver from the bottom. I have a tendency to strip blind holes out, so I am appreciative of a tougher through hole with nut though.
Few things I noticed along with looking at Ty's cars-
Thanks for your good design and smart decisions Torrance!
The only thing I see that might be an issue for me is that the inner ballstud for the rear turn buckles are through hole with a nut on the top. It looks like it might be hard to swap holes, but maybe there is enough room to get a ball head driver from the bottom. I have a tendency to strip blind holes out, so I am appreciative of a tougher through hole with nut though.
Few things I noticed along with looking at Ty's cars-
- THANK YOU for using nut captured pistons, yet another car that I can forget about E clips in the shock! Infact, I don' see E clips anywhere!
- Bleeder caps = awesome.
- Ingenious idea of engraving rings at the bottom of shock shafts for droop setting should be highlighted.
- Diffs look very robust compared to some other 1/10th I have seen.
- I see that servo arm servo-saver is stock, but Ty is running aluminum arm.
- Diff pinion gear/outdrive is one piece, I prefer this.
- Love the sturdy rear hubs, but it is going to be bad for Hot Bodies' spares sales, lol.
- Ease of kick/squat and inside toe adjustment makes me smile.
- I don't see any talk about added weight or any on Ty's car.
Thanks for your good design and smart decisions Torrance!
#1458
HB 112784 , is this part the complete center diff? and only aprox 28 dollar?
I want to get a few centerdiffs for easy switching between light and heavier centerdiffs.
If it is aroud 28 dollar for the complete diff, that is not to bad.
I want to get a few centerdiffs for easy switching between light and heavier centerdiffs.
If it is aroud 28 dollar for the complete diff, that is not to bad.
#1459
I'm thinking maybe the kit setup but dropping the shock oil weight to 35f/32.5r and maybe laying over one hole at the top, also maybe 10/20/7 for the diffs for low grip to get it to pull a little in the front!
How's that sound Torrance to start?
Cheers Justin
#1460
I also need some tips regarding the oil weights in shocks and diff for low bite tracks. for starters
#1461
Tech Regular
iTrader: (8)
Well guys, I will be building my d413 to race mostly at the club level on this outdoor 'low bite' track.
I will be doing a built thread over on the forums on URC once I get my stuff in.
I keep all my threads up to date on all my projects as things change with the kits.
Feel free to look me up over there too (same user name).
Don't hate too hard on the video... It was my first laps with the sct410 and I held nothing back... that was as hard and (almost) controlled as I could go since there was no traffic, I gave her the beans~ and this video is just to show you how 'low bite' we are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0-bLSf6ibY
I will be doing a built thread over on the forums on URC once I get my stuff in.
I keep all my threads up to date on all my projects as things change with the kits.
Feel free to look me up over there too (same user name).
Don't hate too hard on the video... It was my first laps with the sct410 and I held nothing back... that was as hard and (almost) controlled as I could go since there was no traffic, I gave her the beans~ and this video is just to show you how 'low bite' we are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0-bLSf6ibY
#1462
Torrance,
The kit setup is 10/100/10 for the diffs. What type of track and grip is this intended for? I know you mentioned you and Ty are at 15/100/3. How different does the car feel/drive with that versus the kit setup?
The kit setup is 10/100/10 for the diffs. What type of track and grip is this intended for? I know you mentioned you and Ty are at 15/100/3. How different does the car feel/drive with that versus the kit setup?
#1463
Tech Addict
10/100/10 was the ROAR Nats setup which was a high grip track. That's what was published as the kit build setup because at the time the manual was being written that's what we knew. Later the setup evolved to a heavier front and lighter rear. The feel isn't drastically different, the 15/100/3 is just a bit more stable all around. For this car the center diff is the main component that changes the character of the car. As you can see the center diff stayed at 100 on both setups.
#1464
Tech Addict
Thanks Torrance, I think I've read in the past that you have done that. I wonder what would be the best starting point for low grip?
I'm thinking maybe the kit setup but dropping the shock oil weight to 35f/32.5r and maybe laying over one hole at the top, also maybe 10/20/7 for the diffs for low grip to get it to pull a little in the front!
How's that sound Torrance to start?
Cheers Justin
I'm thinking maybe the kit setup but dropping the shock oil weight to 35f/32.5r and maybe laying over one hole at the top, also maybe 10/20/7 for the diffs for low grip to get it to pull a little in the front!
How's that sound Torrance to start?
Cheers Justin
#1465
Tech Addict
The only thing I see that might be an issue for me is that the inner ballstud for the rear turn buckles are through hole with a nut on the top. It looks like it might be hard to swap holes, but maybe there is enough room to get a ball head driver from the bottom. I have a tendency to strip blind holes out, so I am appreciative of a tougher through hole with nut though.
#1466
10/100/10 was the ROAR Nats setup which was a high grip track. That's what was published as the kit build setup because at the time the manual was being written that's what we knew. Later the setup evolved to a heavier front and lighter rear. The feel isn't drastically different, the 15/100/3 is just a bit more stable all around. For this car the center diff is the main component that changes the character of the car. As you can see the center diff stayed at 100 on both setups.
#1467
So, any one (Torance) know trans ratio for the car? Only spur is 72t, what range of pinions fit? I see Ty's running a 21 / 72 on a 5.5t motor. I plan on starting with a 13.5t or 10.5t motor and need an idea of where to start on gearing.
#1468
I originally bought one with a programming box cheap. Then another one, then another. Now I'm "invested" in them. You can get them NIB here for pretty cheap if you keep looking in the BST.
#1469
And this is more of what I think of as low traction:
Well guys, I will be building my d413 to race mostly at the club level on this outdoor 'low bite' track.
I will be doing a built thread over on the forums on URC once I get my stuff in.
I keep all my threads up to date on all my projects as things change with the kits.
Feel free to look me up over there too (same user name).
Don't hate too hard on the video... It was my first laps with the sct410 and I held nothing back... that was as hard and (almost) controlled as I could go since there was no traffic, I gave her the beans~ and this video is just to show you how 'low bite' we are talking about.
I will be doing a built thread over on the forums on URC once I get my stuff in.
I keep all my threads up to date on all my projects as things change with the kits.
Feel free to look me up over there too (same user name).
Don't hate too hard on the video... It was my first laps with the sct410 and I held nothing back... that was as hard and (almost) controlled as I could go since there was no traffic, I gave her the beans~ and this video is just to show you how 'low bite' we are talking about.
+ YouTube Video | |
#1470
Tech Regular
iTrader: (10)
currently the largest pinion that the car will accept is a 38T which will yield a final drive of 6.27. hopefully this can get you in the ballpark in the beginning. if a 4WD stock class does emerge then we'll make a smaller spur. for now however there hasn't been many tracks that run a 17.5 blinky 4WD.
(for reference the D413 comes with a 72T spur and the gearbox ratio is 43/13)
(for reference the D413 comes with a 72T spur and the gearbox ratio is 43/13)