I think he was being sarcastic Kraig. Without a sarcastic font it could be taken wrong.

Why does it seem dumb? I wasn't kidding about my oil pan analogy. Oil pan drain bolts don't use o-rings, and they don't leak. Same with transmission drain plugs. If the oil is thicker than the slop in the threads, the oil won't be able to seep out through the threads. (this is why these drain bolts are UNF threads instead of UNC threads...but those are extreme cases as the hole thats being plugged, is MUCH larger than what we are talking about here.) So if you are leaking, you either running really thin oil, or your threads are fubared...or you are just magic lol

Umm, depends on the oil drain plug, 99% of the 1:1 cars i work on use some sort of rubber or copper gasket. If the manufactuer doesnt use a form of gasket its most likely due to the design of the bolt where they taper and seal off that way similar to what you would see in a plumbing system.

I've changed a LOT of oil in a lot of cars, though it's been a while.

Oil pan drain bolts certainly did use o-rings, and they still do.

All this talk about plugging holes is making me excited!

anybody have any pictures, there has to be somebody that can post a picture of theirs all put together??

Some one said try it .....(no bleed seal )

I did just that and posted back the results with a picture ....

I did snug down the screw firmly ..

All 4 shocks leak the same amount ....


Not like one leaks and the rest are dry ...
If just one or two shocks were dry ?

Maybe I could accept the story's claimed by some here ....

Now installing the copper seal because I found out the hard way which method works .....

Hideeho
Now that's just wrong

My family owns a honda/acura repair shop...dad has been working on honda's for 36 years now. They don't use any sort of gasket at all. period. drain bolt, and crush washer. that's it. same on the transmission. So I know for a fact, that every honda/acura on the road, does NOT use any sort of gasket. (that's a lot of cars!) And no they are not using pipe taps in their design. (tapered threads) And before anyone says the crush washer is the seal...it's not, it's only purpose is to absorb the tq from tightening the bolt down as to not strip the threads in the 18ga steel oil pan.

Now, from my aerospace experience...if you truly want to have an o-ring as a seal, you need to have a groove machined out for the o-ring to sit in. If not, the o-ring will ALWAYS get twisted up, and will not seal. The shocks are not designed as an o-ring seal (at least not functionally anyways) a crush washer (the brass losi ones that people refer too) is most likely the way to go here...but as long as you don't overtighten the screw, and strip the threads...its exactly the same seal as my oil pan/trans analogy.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...3sr801_e14.png

#036 WASHER, DRAIN PLUG (14MM)
#022 BOLT, DRAIN PLUG (14MM)

^^ no o-ring at all. straight from Honda.

so what am i looking at here

Ok some people like running some type of seal and some don't. Run what you like and stop all this back and fouth crap

Back in the day when we had to change oil every 1,000 miles, NONE of the cars I owned had an O ring around the oil drain plug.

+1 some people have leaky holes and some don't!! Personal preference on how you plug your holes to stop the leaky leaky.

Think its rather important to make clear no bleed seal = oil leak


Not arguing , debating or even stating a personal preference.

Sorry if I stepped on a few toes ...


Just feel its important to make sure others here realize what happens when you don't use a bleed seal ...