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Razathorn 04-10-2013 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 12030934)
Daniel , yes does sound a bit confusing ..;)

Learn more about raising & lowering the roll center and it will make more sense ...
Raising the roll center will lower traction..

The C-Hub already has the roll center raise up , adding more spacers raises it even more making less grip .



The A-Hub will bring more grip as you raise the inside ball stud , feels a lot like using a longer link .

The c-hub lowers the roll center. I think you are remembering backwards. It's right in the part description that it lowers the roll center.


Originally Posted by rc10.com
New option C tower in 2.5mm carbon fiber.
Lowers outer link positions for lower roll center.
Provides more rear end stability.

In addition, adding more washers lowers the roll center even more.

If you're in the situation that lowering the roll center frees the car up, you're probably already on the wrong side of the rear roll center setting. What you're basically asking the car to do is roll too far and wash out to steer. It may work, but on power corner exit grip will suffer greatly. In that situation, generally you should raise the roll center, and keep raising it, until it wants to steer correctly. That way you can get the grip/rotation you want in tight corners and still have plentiful corner exit grip because the car stays more level on power with the higher roll center in the rear.

I invite everyone to venture over to the Understanding and Tuning Roll Center thread for further explanation of roll center and discussion so that we can keep this thread clear of this often hot topic's back and fourth posts.

Wild Cherry 04-10-2013 12:36 PM

TY Raz

Sorry for the mistake ..
rest is correct however ...( using spacers to control grip )

snowman_evil 04-10-2013 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 12030898)
When using the C-hub & a shaved U brace use no spacers under the inside ball stud .

Some free up the rear a little and add 1 x .030 under the inside ball stud.


When using the unshaven brace ?

Most use 2 x.030 spacers under the inside ball stud & use the A hub , then they remove one spacer to free up the rear a bit if needed ...

Perfect, that's the exact answer I was after. Thanks a lot!

ifuonlyknew 04-10-2013 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 12031630)
TY Raz

Sorry for the mistake ..
rest is correct however ...( using spacers to control grip )

How did Scott Brown of the all mighty PNW do down in little old Utah?

P.S. I already know the answer.

Wild Cherry 04-10-2013 05:32 PM

April Fools @ Intermountain Rc Raceway
 

Originally Posted by ifuonlyknew (Post 12032483)
How did Scott Brown of the all mighty PNW do down in little old Utah?

P.S. I already know the answer.

We had two in the battle, Scott Brown & John Walentia...

They both had a great race. Scott tq & won the Sc4x4 ,tq 2wSc & 2nd , not so sure ,somewhere in the middle with the 2w buggy.

JW think won St,3rd in 4w,in the back of buggyA

Both are great team mates & have been there for me all these years..

Taking pride in the fact Scott let me help prepare his rides(bug & sc 4).

A good example of how the Ae team works together here in the Nw.:tire:

SavageCanadian 04-10-2013 05:48 PM

Anyone have a good setup for a 1/8 track thats rough and pretty low traction?

ifuonlyknew 04-10-2013 05:53 PM

I was referring to the 2wd buggy class. Just funny to see what happens when fast guys from other places come to Utah and find themselves a lap off pace and getting beat by 4 locals.

Matt Trimmings 04-10-2013 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by ifuonlyknew (Post 12032639)
I was referring to the 2wd buggy class. Just funny to see what happens when fast guys from other places come to Utah and find themselves a lap off pace and getting beat by 4 locals.

Hmmm....Someone came from out of town and raced against some very good locals and got beat, that is very odd. Maybe you should take the time spent belittling people and trying to sound like you know what your talking about and instead go to the track and practice....maybe one day you too will be one of those fast locals...

3srcracing 04-10-2013 06:16 PM

nevermind

ifuonlyknew 04-10-2013 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Matt Trimmings (Post 12032651)
Hmmm....Someone came from out of town and raced against some very good locals and got beat, that is very odd. Maybe you should take the time spent belittling people and trying to sound like you know what your talking about and instead go to the track and practice....maybe one day you too will be one of those fast locals...

Back when I lived in Utah I finished on the same lap as Robbie a couple times when he won. You may have heard of Robbie doing good when he travels, a little while ago he came to Southern California for this one race you may have heard of, um what was it? Oh yeah, the Reedy Race. Just in case you missed it he won the open class. My point is everyone thinks their locals are fast, but the guys from Utah prove it.

Also it is you're.

Anyway I just wanted to rattle Cherry's cage. He likes to dish it out, and there is nothing he can really say back. Utah>PNW.

onefast8 04-10-2013 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by snowman_evil (Post 12026219)
Anyone have any feedback for the 3x1.4mm tappered pistons? Comparing to 1.6 pistons with 30wt oil front and rear

They seem really light, i think i ended up like 40 F 37.5 R. Only one weekend on them. Id be interested in more feedback as well.

Jmuck69 04-10-2013 06:29 PM

Hahaha! East coast rappers vs. West Coast rappers...sheesh it's the 90's all over again.

Matt Trimmings 04-10-2013 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by ifuonlyknew (Post 12032741)
Back when I lived in Utah I finished on the same lap as Robbie a couple times when he won. You may have heard of Robbie doing good when he travels, a little while ago he came to Southern California for this one race you may have heard of, um what was it? Oh yeah, the Reedy Race. Just in case you missed it he won the open class. My point is everyone thinks their locals are fast, but the guys from Utah prove it.

Also it is you're.

Anyway I just wanted to rattle Cherry's cage. He likes to dish it out, and there is nothing he can really say back. Utah>PNW.

I know of him, yes. He came down to Arizona a couple years ago and ran the SIGP at Competition Hobbies and got smoked by some very fast locals...big deal. Who cares.

PFKAOG 04-10-2013 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by ifuonlyknew (Post 12032741)
Back when I lived in Utah I finished on the same lap as Robbie a couple times when he won. You may have heard of Robbie doing good when he travels, a little while ago he came to Southern California for this one race you may have heard of, um what was it? Oh yeah, the Reedy Race. Just in case you missed it he won the open class. My point is everyone thinks their locals are fast, but the guys from Utah prove it.

Also it is you're.

Anyway I just wanted to rattle Cherry's cage. He likes to dish it out, and there is nothing he can really say back. Utah>PNW.

How did he do at The Cactus Classic this year? Did any Utah people win a class?
There's no question Rob G is fast and a really nice guy but who are you to try to take credit for somebody else being fast at an event like you had something to do with it? You say the guyS from Utah prove it. Who else from Utah has proved to be fast at a track they traveled to for an event?

3srcracing 04-10-2013 06:48 PM

Ok now all, lets get back on topic. I feel that we are just bashing on other people that we have never meant which is really common on the internet. I think we should just all grow up and enjoy the hobby and not get all wrapped up in this drama. I can tell you from experience everyone in Utah sure doesn't go out saying they are the best and want to go win. Sure people in Utah want to travel out of Utah and go win but do you think that is the only reason we go? Lets just get back to the hobby and enjoy it and not get wrapped up in the drama..

Thanks,
3srcracing


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