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Old 12-16-2014 | 12:18 PM
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theres a lot of factors at play that could cause the hudy station readings to be different so I try to do the exact same process every time and its also crucial to have a setup board, not something you "think" is flat, it has to be perfectly flat. Also things like weight, balance, etc... as I said I just always did the exact same method w the same battery or fuel level, etc...

That said, I am sure there are variances and some may not get consistent readings

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Old 12-16-2014 | 01:16 PM
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tekno now has these same type screws...
Oh cool, those sneaky bastards are always making their stuff better
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Old 12-16-2014 | 01:36 PM
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Oh cool, those sneaky bastards are always making their stuff better

haha yup... they just released a lot of cool little things specifically involving suspension, new perches, new shock boots, and also counter clockwise screws for mounting shock to arms so they dont back out.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 02:33 PM
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haha yup... they just released a lot of cool little things specifically involving suspension, new perches, new shock boots, and also counter clockwise screws for mounting shock to arms so they dont back out.
Yea those shock mount screws are cool. I've been using the Avid ones for awhile. I never had much of a problem with the stock's backing out but I like using the nut driver vs. Allen so can use the same tool on the top nuts and don't have to dig the dirt out of them.
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Old 12-16-2014 | 08:30 PM
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I completely agree with Rickybob, I vacillated for months whether to buy one or not then got a gift card so figured I'd try one out because I could rationalize blowing a gift card but not my paycheck haha and because they seem to resell pretty well on rctech...

First time I used it was an eye opener... Settings I "thought" I had were way off but more importantly after using it when I went to the track the car felt incredible, I could definitely notice the difference and much more consistency.

I do not take it to the track with me(unless its a track I've never been to), I normally put my cars on it the night before a race and set them according to my setup sheet for that track and then make minor adjustments at the track if necessary... If you do get one, remember to always set your ride height with the tires on before putting the car in the setup station, otherwise if you adjust the ride height afterwards then your settings will be off.
I've got the Integy setup station and agree with the guys saying it's worth having. As stated above, set your ride height where you want it before trying to use a setup station. I try to see where my arms are sitting with my ride height set after dropping the car and push the chassis down on the setup station so the arms are at the same angle.

I haven't seen my settings drift after jumping my EB48 or ET48. The only thing I've really noticed is my ride height dropping as the springs break in.

If you're getting really different results from putting your car on the setup station twice without running it in between I would think something is binding on you. Maybe your suspension or maybe the setup station racks aren't moving freely on the setup board. I kind of wiggle mine around a bit at each corner so each rack seems to be sitting directly under the axle.

Another thing I watch for is that I'm not twisting the spring when I adjust the collars for ride height. If you increase or decrease the coil of your springs, because the spring is stuck to the perch and collar, when you set ride height it seems that it can make a difference in the spring rate. I try to make sure the collar is moving without twisting the spring or that the spring is moving the same amount top and bottom.
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Old 12-17-2014 | 12:03 AM
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The track I run on is really bumpy with some rock and can be very inconsistent. Can anyone point me in the direction for a setup I cannot find anything but smooth track stuff. The car is bouncing around quite a bit, has anyone tried running a tekin truggy sized motor for a bit of added weight? I'm tempted to try out my truggy 2000kv motor with some big heavy bats to see if I can keep the car on the ground a little more over the bumps

Any help would be great.
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Old 12-17-2014 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Vegetable
The track I run on is really bumpy with some rock and can be very inconsistent. Can anyone point me in the direction for a setup I cannot find anything but smooth track stuff. The car is bouncing around quite a bit, has anyone tried running a tekin truggy sized motor for a bit of added weight? I'm tempted to try out my truggy 2000kv motor with some big heavy bats to see if I can keep the car on the ground a little more over the bumps

Any help would be great.
What is the shock package you are running now?
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Old 12-17-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Does anybody else use blue Kyosho springs front and rear? They seem like they might be too stiff, I'm thinking about trying orange all the way around
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Old 12-17-2014 | 09:46 AM
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Does anybody else use blue Kyosho springs front and rear? They seem like they might be too stiff, I'm thinking about trying orange all the way around
I run Orange rears most of the time with oils in the 30-35 range with 8x1.3's
Then either light blue or orange fronts in the 35 - 45 range with 8x1.3's

Just got a set of the 6 x 1.5's (forget the hole size off the top of my head) prob try them out this weekend.
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Old 12-17-2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by turtle189mt
What is the shock package you are running now?
I'm running yellow tekno front and tekno purple rear with 8 by 1,3 500 front 450 rear.
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Old 12-17-2014 | 10:39 AM
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Just installed the new perches and boots! Nice!
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Old 12-17-2014 | 11:07 AM
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for those of you who switched from the 8x1.3's to the 6x1.5, what relative oil changes did you make? Basically the same, or up or down?
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Old 12-17-2014 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizchief
for those of you who switched from the 8x1.3's to the 6x1.5, what relative oil changes did you make? Basically the same, or up or down?
Assuming you move your shocks out on the arm, most people stay with pretty much the same oil as you were using before. I know when i went from 8x1.3 to 6x1.5, I went from using 37.5/30 to 35/30.

Personally the 6x1.5 setup just feels more stable and easier to drive everywhere. If you feel like it isnt responsive enough, just play around with the links, antisquat, kickup, etc. It also seems like most everyone makes their links longer when using these pistons.

Joe Bornhorst's setup was a pretty good starting point for me indoors, I ended up lengthening the rear link but that's pretty much it. Try it out!
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Old 12-17-2014 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizchief
for those of you who switched from the 8x1.3's to the 6x1.5, what relative oil changes did you make? Basically the same, or up or down?
Im trying 425/325 Indoor clay
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Old 12-17-2014 | 12:10 PM
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I am running the 8x1.3 in the front and the 6x1.5 in the rear. I tried the 6x1.5 all around for me on a smooth track the front end would dive and rebound to quick for my liking. Once i went back to the 8x1.3 it was fine on the smooth tracks. On the rough tracks I will still use the 6x1.5's.
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