2LikesTekno RC EB48 Thread
01-06-2014 | 06:43 PM
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That is whats nice about the tekno kits. Everyone is doing something different. These kits react well to changes good or bad. I still use stock springs on my EB48. 2 but use 6x1.3 pistons. I don't use anything close to stock shock setup on my sct410. Everyone likes and does something different.
01-06-2014 | 06:47 PM
I would be more than happy to help in any way that I can I am running stock springs on my eb48.2 however I run the 8x 1.3 pistons flipped. I don't know what type of track you run but I am sure it is nothing like mine but give me an idea of track type and im sure ive got a setup somewhere for something similar. As for pro setups it would be impossible for any company to send a kit out that the setup would work for any track around the world. personally I've never found anyone elses setup that has ever worked for me
very true ego and I run the same home track and our setups are literally polar opposites but they both work for our driving style. He came from losi and has never been happier in fact and this is true story he texted me yesterday and said (sometimes I hate owning tekno) when I asked him why his reply was (cause I have money to blow on rc but have nothing I need to buy)
01-06-2014 | 06:59 PM
very true ego and I run the same home track and our setups are literally polar opposites but they both work for our driving style. He came from losi and has never been happier in fact and this is true story he texted me yesterday and said (sometimes I hate owning tekno) when I asked him why his reply was (cause I have money to blow on rc but have nothing I need to buy)
01-06-2014 | 07:00 PM
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Yeah I've seen the pics of that track on the et48 thread of course it had to be that one I would be of little help for that one the only tracks I have ran that big were in western Wyoming and Utah and the traction was awful on those all rocks and sand
01-06-2014 | 07:01 PM
I really can't agree with most of the things you said. Front shock tower breaking, never seen that. Really have to say even on my .1 buggy, the towers are super strong. No change needed here.
Pistons and springs not included, i don't know how that's a bad thing. I would much rather purchase separate springs based on what setup i want to run. Pistons, springs, and sway bars from pro setups? Who even uses pro setups; as if they can even drive close to how they drive. I've never needed to use overpriced kyosho springs either. I have no idea what "$150" in upgrades you could have spent it on. The buggy is fully upgraded right outta the box.
Noone i know has cut the battery tray or switched chassis on the eb48, sct410 is another story. You do have the option to run the battery in diff positions by moving the straps to different holes.
The buggy is great outta the box and i don't see how you are complaining about such little things when the .2 comes with so much more upgrades compared to the.1 at no price increase. I think the tekno is a much better choice than the losi due to the much better fit/finish, quality of materials, and no compromise design. If i remember correctly, the 3.0 e is like $670 due to the pistons, springs, and sway bars included. I'd rather choose than be stuck with a ton of tuning items i'll never use.
I could find tons of things that are wrong with the losi. The losi cons list far outweighs the tekno. So far you are the only one to complain this much about arguably the best buggy on the market right now.
Pistons and springs not included, i don't know how that's a bad thing. I would much rather purchase separate springs based on what setup i want to run. Pistons, springs, and sway bars from pro setups? Who even uses pro setups; as if they can even drive close to how they drive. I've never needed to use overpriced kyosho springs either. I have no idea what "$150" in upgrades you could have spent it on. The buggy is fully upgraded right outta the box.
Noone i know has cut the battery tray or switched chassis on the eb48, sct410 is another story. You do have the option to run the battery in diff positions by moving the straps to different holes.
The buggy is great outta the box and i don't see how you are complaining about such little things when the .2 comes with so much more upgrades compared to the.1 at no price increase. I think the tekno is a much better choice than the losi due to the much better fit/finish, quality of materials, and no compromise design. If i remember correctly, the 3.0 e is like $670 due to the pistons, springs, and sway bars included. I'd rather choose than be stuck with a ton of tuning items i'll never use.
I could find tons of things that are wrong with the losi. The losi cons list far outweighs the tekno. So far you are the only one to complain this much about arguably the best buggy on the market right now.
losi 8ight-e 3 is 550 before coupons or discounts, it too is a fine buggy. Sorry for the thoughts based on other manu's and kits.. I'll count my blessing for the extras in the .2 and move on. I do appreciate the tips from the others users though, and I'm glad you have not had issues w/ the front tower, I know two extremely fast good drivers who did break them though.. with luck I won't have that issue
BTW I've started with Drakes base on my truggy & buggy for years, w/ a few edits here and there as needed but overall it just works
01-06-2014 | 07:53 PM
That track sounds and looks similar to what I was used to at NorCal for a while, but longer track. If you like really stable, look at the Curtis door setup (from slightly higher traction), and if you like super aggressive look at the Austin Blair DNC setup from last year. Both should be good and reasonable starting points. They were running Kyosho pistons and springs because at the time Tekno didn't have heavier springs for the rear, nor the option pistons. I played a mix and match of the two setups and have a car that rewards smoothness but punishes aggressive driving. You can definitely get to something you'll like though.
As for battery location, I've seen one eb48 moved back and it was to make it feel more like the nitro car the driver drove, so it was easier to transition between driving the two.
As for battery location, I've seen one eb48 moved back and it was to make it feel more like the nitro car the driver drove, so it was easier to transition between driving the two.
01-06-2014 | 11:53 PM
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Feeling like a money pit.. maybe ideas to help future releases seem less so?
For a kit that retails at ~500+ I'm a little disappointed in the lack of suspension tuning options.. Running 8ights and a few other kits even Durango's I guess they spoiled me.. so it surprises me that a few plastic pistons options are not included. It surprises me that a couple sway bar options are not included. It surprises me that the springs are not even from a pro setup that anyone wants to run at this point, or at least a couple pairs to select from (most of my 8ight kits came with a couple options & all had the base pro setups included). Further on springs, it surprises me that it comes with springs most top drivers basically toss in favor of Kyosho replacements. It surprises me that with all the almost over engineered areas, that battery placement has no options and many cut the tray and some are even replacing chassis w/ after market ones that move the battery back some. It surprises me the amount of people breaking an aluminum front tower, that doesn't seem to have been revised yet. PS not taking as much material out near the shock towers ends would help and the posts are long enough to easily add a mm or 2 back in. The remaining plastic breakage on arms and wing mounts I'll chalk up to poor driving but others who have had this longer may say otherwise. I've had lots of warnings to keep these parts from many owners who love their buggies.
Keep in mind I'm not saying there is overall bad quality, or even that the buggy cannot perform with what is in the kit.. a good driver can make anything work, the best drivers seem to be making a bit more of these kits,, what is the take away? How can Tekno learn and adjust? Maybe they already are .3 in the works? Again these are just my initial thoughts after changing brands. Once I get some real race time in on this buggy maybe all this stuff just fades.. maybe not. Owners with some time under your belt do you feel the same or is it just me? At any rate I've put a cap on the spending/prep for now I hope I don't get burnt at the track w/ issues. I have a few key tekno parts and tuning items (150) and another (60) added to the cost in a kyosho suspension parts to finish up the tekno kit.
Sorry had to spit it out ET48 on pre-order as well with luck I'll forget about all these frustrations and be crazy happy and maybe turn some faster more consistent laps this coming season.
For a kit that retails at ~500+ I'm a little disappointed in the lack of suspension tuning options.. Running 8ights and a few other kits even Durango's I guess they spoiled me.. so it surprises me that a few plastic pistons options are not included. It surprises me that a couple sway bar options are not included. It surprises me that the springs are not even from a pro setup that anyone wants to run at this point, or at least a couple pairs to select from (most of my 8ight kits came with a couple options & all had the base pro setups included). Further on springs, it surprises me that it comes with springs most top drivers basically toss in favor of Kyosho replacements. It surprises me that with all the almost over engineered areas, that battery placement has no options and many cut the tray and some are even replacing chassis w/ after market ones that move the battery back some. It surprises me the amount of people breaking an aluminum front tower, that doesn't seem to have been revised yet. PS not taking as much material out near the shock towers ends would help and the posts are long enough to easily add a mm or 2 back in. The remaining plastic breakage on arms and wing mounts I'll chalk up to poor driving but others who have had this longer may say otherwise. I've had lots of warnings to keep these parts from many owners who love their buggies.
Keep in mind I'm not saying there is overall bad quality, or even that the buggy cannot perform with what is in the kit.. a good driver can make anything work, the best drivers seem to be making a bit more of these kits,, what is the take away? How can Tekno learn and adjust? Maybe they already are .3 in the works? Again these are just my initial thoughts after changing brands. Once I get some real race time in on this buggy maybe all this stuff just fades.. maybe not. Owners with some time under your belt do you feel the same or is it just me? At any rate I've put a cap on the spending/prep for now I hope I don't get burnt at the track w/ issues. I have a few key tekno parts and tuning items (150) and another (60) added to the cost in a kyosho suspension parts to finish up the tekno kit.
Sorry had to spit it out
ET48 on pre-order as well with luck I'll forget about all these frustrations and be crazy happy and maybe turn some faster more consistent laps this coming season.
01-07-2014 | 02:32 AM
I will put together a setup sheet as soon as I get a few minutes. I run the stock shock springs and shock pistons in my car and have had great success. I am running all stock in my car with exception to the 15 degree front hubs. I really didnt like the k springs for my local track. More linear springs feel better for me. You really do need to understand that some people will swap out springs to another brand spring just to follow what a fast guy did. A good portion of the time, fast guys will try a new buggy but resort to spring rates they know to eliminate the learning curve and get there cars dialed in quicker. Its not that spring A is better than spring B.
Any time you change from another brand, things will be different. It takes a little getting used to but it will happen. I cant say i see the same breakage that you have though. I honestly have never seen a broken front tower in my area. The only parts i have broken in a year and a half is 1 front arm and i bent 2 hinge pins. Not saying you are lieing, just havent seen it here locally.
Any time you change from another brand, things will be different. It takes a little getting used to but it will happen. I cant say i see the same breakage that you have though. I honestly have never seen a broken front tower in my area. The only parts i have broken in a year and a half is 1 front arm and i bent 2 hinge pins. Not saying you are lieing, just havent seen it here locally.
01-07-2014 | 03:31 AM
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I saw a tekno break Saturday a right front spindle, but it was on a sct410. And 2 weeks ago different sct410 truck, a shock mount???
And over the summer just 1 plastic shock cap.
But I haven't received mine YET!!!!!!! PEE ON UPS!!!! HAHAHA.
BUT another REASON I want the eb48.2 is that u got to beat the life out of it to break it!!!!!
And over the summer just 1 plastic shock cap.
But I haven't received mine YET!!!!!!! PEE ON UPS!!!! HAHAHA.
BUT another REASON I want the eb48.2 is that u got to beat the life out of it to break it!!!!!
01-07-2014 | 07:48 AM
Several people at my local track traveled to a Toys For Tot race a few months ago and all of us driving tenkos broke rear diff cases. The track had some big jumps and other crazy stuff though. Another guy driving a losi also broke a shock shaft and a arm. They have made some changes to the track after the several locals had esc problems. I noticed my 2nd diff case cracked before the main so I took tire glue and some dirt to tried to limp it through the main. It's still going strong but that's the only problem our local tenko drivers have had.
01-07-2014 | 08:16 AM
8ight-e: no prob with you posting your opinion. There are great guys here who can help you get on point with your setups.
Me personally, some of the items you mentioned I think you can find alternative versions of what you are looking for that aren't kyosho price.
Prime example, the springs. I personally run the Hot Bodies line of springs as I had spares from my previous Tekno converted D8. They work well on the shocks and are a bit shorter too which can help when you want to lower ride height on say the sct410. As the EB48 is also heavier, I can run AE springs too. Right now for my conditions I really liked how the Hot Bodies grey fronts and grey rears worked together. going stiffer had the car feel too springy. I do also have a set of the Xrays that it came with out the box but using similar spring rates in HB springs, didn't really see a difference. I also like the bright colors of the HB springs
As for pistons, I wouldn't mind seeing tekno release a parts tree that had a few more pistons on it. For me, my EB48 came with Kyosho 1.3mm x 8 hole pistons, and now all the vehicle are equipped with it as its cheap and works well. And from what I am seeing the new ET48 comes with the CNC 1.3mm x 8 hole pistons. So shoudl be in luck there.
Wonder if Tekno will in a revision include the 1.3mm x 8 holes instead.
As for durability, I broke a wing coming down on off of about a 20 - 25ft spanning jump in a below 30 degree weather arena last year. Didn't really fault the wing to be honest, but wouldn't mind a more pliable one if that was ever in the works. Only shock tower breakage issues I have read up on, and maybe I am just missing it but it was mainly carbon stuff.
Personally, I think what Tekno included is basically what they felt gave a nice overall feel to the vehicle as far as setup goes. Would I have loved to see them include the full range of sway bars, sure who wouldn't but, you then get to "pay" for that via price increase. No free lunch.
Me personally, some of the items you mentioned I think you can find alternative versions of what you are looking for that aren't kyosho price.
Prime example, the springs. I personally run the Hot Bodies line of springs as I had spares from my previous Tekno converted D8. They work well on the shocks and are a bit shorter too which can help when you want to lower ride height on say the sct410. As the EB48 is also heavier, I can run AE springs too. Right now for my conditions I really liked how the Hot Bodies grey fronts and grey rears worked together. going stiffer had the car feel too springy. I do also have a set of the Xrays that it came with out the box but using similar spring rates in HB springs, didn't really see a difference. I also like the bright colors of the HB springs
As for pistons, I wouldn't mind seeing tekno release a parts tree that had a few more pistons on it. For me, my EB48 came with Kyosho 1.3mm x 8 hole pistons, and now all the vehicle are equipped with it as its cheap and works well. And from what I am seeing the new ET48 comes with the CNC 1.3mm x 8 hole pistons. So shoudl be in luck there.
Wonder if Tekno will in a revision include the 1.3mm x 8 holes instead.
As for durability, I broke a wing coming down on off of about a 20 - 25ft spanning jump in a below 30 degree weather arena last year. Didn't really fault the wing to be honest, but wouldn't mind a more pliable one if that was ever in the works. Only shock tower breakage issues I have read up on, and maybe I am just missing it but it was mainly carbon stuff.
Personally, I think what Tekno included is basically what they felt gave a nice overall feel to the vehicle as far as setup goes. Would I have loved to see them include the full range of sway bars, sure who wouldn't
but, you then get to "pay" for that via price increase. No free lunch.
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01-07-2014 | 10:09 AM
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I've only had to replace a handful of parts. 2 orginal .1 front arms that broke when I landed big jumps on the arm only. 1 .2 front xt arm and hinge pin when I landed a jump and got hooked on a stake. 1 rear bulkhead when I had an original bearing disintegrate. My original wing mount because it was warped after 6 months of races and crashes.
It's on par with the breakages I had with my d8, but the Tekno has a lot less slop than the d8. Also the Tekno has more suspension adjustments than the d8.
Now that I've finally got a good set up on mine, I'm driving it more consistent. Now to work on speed.
It's on par with the breakages I had with my d8, but the Tekno has a lot less slop than the d8. Also the Tekno has more suspension adjustments than the d8.
Now that I've finally got a good set up on mine, I'm driving it more consistent. Now to work on speed.
01-07-2014 | 10:30 AM
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