Originally Posted by Arigato (Post 10166341)

Yes, they are 4 pole motors. Most tracks don't enforce strict roar rules unless they are running a roar specific event. The OP was wondering about inexpensive systems and for your average or new rc enthusiast, the Viper systems are very good.

Originally Posted by 2wdMod (Post 10169099)

Yes you can use the Hobbywing advanced LCD programming link just as you normally would on a hobbywing branded esc.or the usb "dongle"..I actually used the yellow dongle to flash my blue hobbywing..worked just fine..I also wanted to point out that when you link to the speedo using the dongle it auto detects the hardware and the firmware installed .It registered as a hobbywing XeRun as the hardware and it had hobbywing firmware already on it..I then installed Hobbywing 508 zero timing firmware for Blinky legal use..This IS a hobbywing Xerun speedo..Its not a clone.It performs exactly like my Blue Hobbywing branded esc.

Originally Posted by 2wdMod (Post 10170299)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVYGstwPUi4

Video of my 15 year old Brandon Nichols during round 2 last night...running budget gear in Mod SCT..this is with a Xerun 60a esc, and Tacon 2950 kv sensorless motor in his losi SCT..Sorry the quality is succky ..Brandon is the orange 'blur'lol..Running his budget gear against top of the line name brand tekin, novak, and castle systems..

Originally Posted by Manatarms25 (Post 10170343)

Nice run Brandon !!
My kids also run Tacon motors, they are so smooth its like running a sensored motor.

Originally Posted by IROC-AR15 (Post 10166818)

Are there any good places to get a Hobbywing Xerun 150A esc?
They seem to be out of stock everywhere but a few ebay sellers and this place
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm...olesalers.html
Which is $94 shipped from hong kong

Originally Posted by IROC-AR15 (Post 10170403)

So nothing?

Originally Posted by IROC-AR15 (Post 10166818)

Are there any good places to get a Hobbywing Xerun 150A esc?
They seem to be out of stock everywhere but a few ebay sellers and this place
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm...olesalers.html
Which is $94 shipped from hong kong

Originally Posted by dirtman71 (Post 10170636)

thats looks to be about it for now...EMS shipping can be fast 3-4days at times

Originally Posted by 2wdMod (Post 10170595)

http://www.nitrorcx.com/07e-c-xerun-80a-sd.html

best I could search up in the states right now is the 80A..but rcx sells the 150a also ..they are pretty quick about keeping them in stock usually so if your not in a rush you just may want to keep an eye out there..

Originally Posted by dirtman71 (Post 10170636)

thats looks to be about it for now...EMS shipping can be fast 3-4days at times

Originally Posted by 2wdMod (Post 10171150)

I can totally vouch for this..last time i used EMS from hobby king it was 4 days to my door.:nod:

Originally Posted by 2wdMod (Post 10096091)

What they SHOULD be saying is ASSEMBLED in the usa made from globaly sourced components..I do beleive novak lost a lawsuit in california over that very statement..as to just HOW globally sourced the components are that is for novak to know and us to speculate upon.I live in Michigan, and we can tell you from the decline in our statewide economy that American owned, and assembled is much different than american MADE all together..I beleive the term with in the industry for out sourcing is "farming out"..A good example of "farming out" and its effect on the RC industry would be Associated.Associated was an american made, american owned company..They started outsourcing their parts and now a company that they outsourced a majority of their components to in the past actually OWNS them now..Thunder Tiger.