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Old 11-03-2014 | 10:05 AM
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So, are you saying that all the top drivers in the world are setting up their cars wrong?
If Fred won't say it, I will! They're wrong!
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Old 11-03-2014 | 11:47 AM
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I have a B 44.3 and looking for a low-speed steering is there anything I can do to help me with that with the camber or any suggestions
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Old 11-03-2014 | 12:46 PM
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Exit steering? Or mid-turn steering? If you need exit steering you could try running a tighter diff (ball diff) or thicker oil (gear diff). You could also run a longer link in front or raise the inside mounting point. This will allow the chassis to roll over further and plant the outside tire hard later in the corner. Also, don't run too thick of an oil in the center to allow the front to pull the car out of the corner. Sway bar in place in the front currently? Try going to a softer sway bar.
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Old 11-10-2014 | 03:48 AM
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Thanks guys for all the information in this thread. And please don't leave this thread forever, Fred

Put some HPI Apache C1 shocks (same as HPI Vorza and HB D8) with white springs on my Slash and have now started to go through all the steps.
Car is a Slash 4x4 LCG 1/8 buggy conversion with TPPower 5670 motor, Alienpower 250A 8S ESC and 8S 4000mAh lipo. Weight is 4.3Kg.

Could somebody please have a look at the push-down and drop-test vids I made? I am not sure if I got it right and what to look for.

youtu.be/ObK4tO_eBe4
(sorry for not embedding the link, the forum won't let me do this because I don't have enough postings yet)

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Old 11-10-2014 | 05:02 AM
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That is a video of you running up and down the street.
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Old 11-10-2014 | 05:16 AM
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Ah, sorry wrong link.

This is the right one:
youtu.be/ObK4tO_eBe4
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Old 11-10-2014 | 05:52 AM
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If you raise the rear inner link that lowers the roll center,correct? So if you raise the outside of the link does that also give you a LRC or raise it?
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Old 11-10-2014 | 07:30 AM
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I believe the back is coming up faster. what camera are you using to get that nice slow mo?
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Old 11-10-2014 | 07:41 AM
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gonna start looking at this with a Tekno SCT410. anyone else working on this with a Tekno? would love to hear more.
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Old 11-10-2014 | 07:43 AM
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Thanks for your judgement. Rear coming up faster would mean I need to reduce spring rate in the rear.
So either move shocks inward on rear a-arm, use softer springs in the back, or use harder springs in the front?

It's somehow completely counter-intuitive for me. But I'm just a basher, so that probably means nothing

Camera is my Galaxy S5 phone with video mode set to Slow motion in 1/8 speed. It then produces a video that is already in slow-motion. Then imported that video to Windows Movie Maker and slowed it down to 1/2 there. So it should be 1/16 speed now
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Old 11-10-2014 | 07:44 AM
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wife has that phone, I'll give that a try and see how it goes too. Figure need a project over the winter
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Old 11-10-2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
gonna start looking at this with a Tekno SCT410. anyone else working on this with a Tekno? would love to hear more.
I will be but I am waiting on my springs to come in. Should be here Thursday of this week.
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Old 11-10-2014 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by elex300
If you raise the rear inner link that lowers the roll center,correct? So if you raise the outside of the link does that also give you a LRC or raise it?
Lowering on the hub has same effect as raising on the tower, just not as dramatic, so yes it lowers roll center.
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Old 11-11-2014 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by elex300
If you raise the rear inner link that lowers the roll center,correct? So if you raise the outside of the link does that also give you a LRC or raise it?
Raising the outer link (on the hub) will raise the roll center. I've found it will generally add more rear traction.
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Old 11-11-2014 | 08:33 AM
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All I know is that outdoor I run red springs on the back and blue or black on the front and indoor you can be totally the other way round as the track gives loads of rear grip. The oils are similar. I don't think the car would pass the drop test!
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