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heavyjeffd 06-23-2011 09:47 AM

I don't use Serpent bearings.

Edumakated 06-23-2011 09:51 AM

I never had the bearing problems with the 808. I had an '08 808 and I blew exactly one center diff bearing when I first got the car. I replaced them with Avids and still on some of the original bearings in the car from '08!

I can't tell from the drawings but it looks like the Serpent has a composite chassis? The battery boxes look molded to the chassis.

audriusv 06-23-2011 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by heavyjeffd (Post 9295119)
I've been reading and posting in the Serpent thread since it was started for the 811. :weird:

Most of the assembly problems were due to the person trying to build the kit, I had no assembly problems, but unlike many people posting about their assembly problems, I have built many high end kits in my life.

You just sound like you are negative on the car in general. Stick with your Caster, you will be happier that way. You will only buy the Serpent, look for faults then complain about them.

See your type all the time. :lol:

:) well, please read UK forums, or French forums, or German forums, or Polish forums, or Russian forums, or Czech forums... and then tell that all this people is a "type" :).

And if Car is a Perfection how can one mess up assembly that bad that he post his frustration on a forums... Serpent have perfect 3D instructions for all his cars so there should be no problems at all???

:lol:

Sorry, do not mean to be a "type". No more bad words about Serpent, ok :). Peace? Will you help me with good advices on assembly and some basic settings when I get e-Serpent?

heavyjeffd 06-23-2011 12:06 PM

Why would I read other forums to look for the problems they have with cars? :weird:

Follow the instructions and take your time, if the screws are tight pretap the holes or use a wax or something. Some of the screws are tight. Sand the edges and CA them on all carbon like standard procedure for carbon cars.

WideOpenThrottle RC 06-23-2011 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by audriusv (Post 9296576)
:) well, please read UK forums, or French forums, or German forums, or Polish forums, or Russian forums, or Czech forums... and then tell that all this people is a "type" :).

And if Car is a Perfection how can one mess up assembly that bad that he post his frustration on a forums... Serpent have perfect 3D instructions for all his cars so there should be no problems at all???

:lol:

Sorry, do not mean to be a "type". No more bad words about Serpent, ok :). Peace? Will you help me with good advices on assembly and some basic settings when I get e-Serpent?

Don't pay any attention to some on here bud, there are known issues with the serpent whether they choose to admit it or not. Rather than discuss the problems they attempt to save face by blaming it on the person assembling or driving the kit, I don't doubt there are some who cause the problem by there own doing but there are also those such as myself who have been racing for some time and built probably 25 race level kits who realize they need to refine some things on the buggy. It's for that fact that no matter how much I like this buggy I would not buy it because it would be a continuation of the nitro version and the similar problems. Buy the buggy, a screw kit, aftermarket bearings, a couple hundred dollars worth of hopups and you may be able to make it around the track and only require maintenance similar to that of other buggies. The buggy is tough, and I really wanted to like the ones I had but its got a ways to go imo.

heavyjeffd 06-23-2011 08:13 PM

Who's saying there weren't problems with the buggy? I have yet to own a buggy without SOME kind of problem (XRay, Mugen Losi, etc).

I'm saying my problems weren't diff bearings (which is what was mentioned) because they weren't.

My problems are, if you really want to know:

Sway bars; the design lends to them getting dirty/squeaky easily so it takes a lot of extra maintenance (at least at the tracks I run) to keep them smooth

Old radio tray (that was beaten to death, we all know those issues)

Stock servo saver spring; too soft, can't straighten out all the way in one direction

Shock caps; anodizing rubs off REALLY easily (they have new caps, but the black ones get rubbed off easy)

Rear wing is kind of fragile compared to what I'm used to

OEM body material seems to be somewhat brittle

That's about it for me

No, no buggy is perfect and by no means is the Serpent. It is, however, my favorite out of every buggy I've owned.

hakmazter 06-24-2011 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by jzemaxx (Post 9232978)
Now....FINALLY a quality ground up E-buggy. :nod:

http://rcspecial.com/news/wp-content.../br1090611.jpg

What?????

BOLISARIO 06-24-2011 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by hakmazter (Post 9301417)
What?????



Uh-oh Mug....I mean, Caster got offended by the "quality ground-up e-buggy," comment. People, when talking about "original" 1/8 E-buggies, you need to mention Caster first.:lol::lol::rolleyes::rolleyes:

hakmazter 06-24-2011 09:10 PM

I know I know....Pot calling Kettle black.

Oh well, they always say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

The serpent is a good looking buggy from the cad drawings so far.

m@_c 06-26-2011 09:30 AM

Not sure if rear mounted saddle pack is the best way to go with 1/8 electric. I was convinced earlier this year that it would work and so converted my mbx6to an almost identical layout to this car. I found it lacked steering and wasn't actually as balanced in terms of handling as I expected. I'm also a recent convert to mechanical brakes after discovering how much more stopping power and additional efficiency can be gained over direct drive. a clutch is also a very important part of getting a 4wd to handle, especially over rough or loose terrain. both these things can require a bit more space than looks to be available in this chassis. about to buy a tekno v4 kit with traction drive and if it ain't any better than my current car then I might look at this one but will definitely be looking at ways to mount mechanical brakes and a slipperential.

jzemaxx 06-26-2011 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by hakmazter (Post 9303190)
I know I know....Pot calling Kettle black.

Oh well, they always say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

The serpent is a good looking buggy from the cad drawings so far.

This coming from a company imitating a Mugen??? :lol:

jasonwipf 06-27-2011 12:58 AM

anyone catch the release date?

Z4Kevo 06-27-2011 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by m@_c (Post 9308236)
...I'm also a recent convert to mechanical brakes after discovering how much more stopping power and additional efficiency can be gained over direct drive. a clutch is also a very important part of getting a 4wd to handle, especially over rough or loose terrain. both these things can require a bit more space than looks to be available in this chassis. about to buy a tekno v4 kit with traction drive and if it ain't any better than my current car then I might look at this one but will definitely be looking at ways to mount mechanical brakes and a slipperential.

I was thinking along these same lines, so while waiting for this release I went ahead and put together a Tekno v4 D8 kit with traktion drive and mechanical brakes. So far so good...clutched power delivery is very smooth and the mechanical brakes are great. The ability to set front rear bias is a real plus too. No more over heating the motor either.

Win win win.

Pulse_ 06-27-2011 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by Z4Kevo (Post 9311673)
I was thinking along these same lines, so while waiting for this release I went ahead and put together a Tekno v4 D8 kit with traktion drive and mechanical brakes. So far so good...clutched power delivery is very smooth and the mechanical brakes are great. The ability to set front rear bias is a real plus too. No more over heating the motor either.

Win win win.

I think you did a very good choice.

"Clutch" + mechanical brakes on a good 1 lipo setup is the best bet today just because we have feedbacks about it. The S811E SHOULD be awesome, but no one knows before its released, these are just guesses.... or wishes call it what you want

kufman 06-27-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by hakmazter (Post 9303190)
I know I know....Pot calling Kettle black.

Oh well, they always say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

The serpent is a good looking buggy from the cad drawings so far.

Similar, but has many refinements over the Caster.

-Batteries pulled in at the rear
-ESC is on the chassis (it is heavier than the receiver)
-Motor can be adjusted without removing a battery tray
-Hinged battery trays that are an integrated chassis brace.

Not so sure about the plastic chassis, but it is purpose built for this car. Should be an interesting car.


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