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qstorm777 05-29-2015 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by boomtheroom (Post 14031192)
Yep just completed my 811 be2.0 non shimmed and my center internal gears just crunch and don't move the drives any ideas?

https://youtu.be/VfT8iRaWEc4

It appears to me your internal gears are not lined up (probably the gear next to the spur is not lined up correctly with the 4 satelite gears. I would loosen it up and make sure the gears are lined up and turn freely then tighten it back down.

qstorm777 05-30-2015 09:17 PM

Battery Tray
 
What all have people done to try and get more air to the batteries? I know some have extended the cut on the outside of the battery tray? Anything else?

Sizemore 06-01-2015 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14031701)
It appears to me your internal gears are not lined up (probably the gear next to the spur is not lined up correctly with the 4 satelite gears. I would loosen it up and make sure the gears are lined up and turn freely then tighten it back down.

Did you install all the phillip screw holding diff bearing in case? If so take out the one on side where gear are meshing together.

IOP_Racer 06-01-2015 07:24 PM

I personally have not had a problem overheating the batteries. They may get warm, but not too hot. You could maybe make some cutouts in the body to help with airflow as well as trim the tray a little.

ForzaVeloce 06-02-2015 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by tysonsk (Post 14027792)
The last set of batteries I blew up because I didn't calibrate my esc or set the LVC:mad:. Completely my fault rushing everything. What's a good c rating to use for two 2s batteries in my 1/8 buggy.

I run these most of the time, both for practice and racing:

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...APPROVED_.html

They are cheap so you could buy a bunch of them. Kinda low C-rating but they don't get hotter and have the same punch as my Turnigy 6600mAh 90C ones (wich by the way are kinda crappy and loose punch really quickly).
The oldest ones I have are on their third season (and probaly around 300 charges as I use them in my 1/10 touring car as well) and has lost some runtime and punch but I still use them for practice and they give me 10+.

I run them with Hobbywing Xerun 150A ESC and motor with almost no punch (step 2) and just a little timing added (step 3 or 4). LVC set to 3.4v and I get between 12 and 18min out of them depending on the track.

Maybe not the best battery if you like to cram every last amp of your ESC but if you want a cheap way to get a driveable car and get to the podium without spinning the power away you could try them. :)

qstorm777 06-02-2015 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by ForzaVeloce (Post 14036260)
I run these most of the time, both for practice and racing:

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...APPROVED_.html

They are cheap so you could buy a bunch of them. Kinda low C-rating but they don't get hotter and have the same punch as my Turnigy 6600mAh 90C ones (wich by the way are kinda crappy and loose punch really quickly).
The oldest ones I have are on their third season (and probaly around 300 charges as I use them in my 1/10 touring car as well) and has lost some runtime and punch but I still use them for practice and they give me 10+.

I run them with Hobbywing Xerun 150A ESC and motor with almost no punch (step 2) and just a little timing added (step 3 or 4). LVC set to 3.4v and I get between 12 and 18min out of them depending on the track.

Maybe not the best battery if you like to cram every last amp of your ESC but if you want a cheap way to get a driveable car and get to the podium without spinning the power away you could try them. :)

Is it the nano-tech ultimate that losses punch quickly? I'm hoping not, but would be good to know. SMC's race formula are my favorites, but they don't have any right now.

qstorm777 06-03-2015 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by chicky03 (Post 13912576)
Here is the latest setup we have been running. email me if you have any questions, [email protected]

What is the difference in V1 and V2 springs and how do I get a comparable shock setup between V1 and V2 springs? I only have V2 springs and I want to be able to run similar setups I see that are using V1 springs.

Do the Serpent delrin pistons work better/smoother?

Is there another manufacturer whose pistons properly fit the Serpent shocks? There are not a lot of piston options on the Serpent website. I don't know that I want to drill my own (don't have a drill press).

chicky03 06-07-2015 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14038219)
What is the difference in V1 and V2 springs and how do I get a comparable shock setup between V1 and V2 springs? I only have V2 springs and I want to be able to run similar setups I see that are using V1 springs.

Do the Serpent delrin pistons work better/smoother?

Is there another manufacturer whose pistons properly fit the Serpent shocks? There are not a lot of piston options on the Serpent website. I don't know that I want to drill my own (don't have a drill press).

Regardless of what the packaging says here is the springs in order of softest to stiffest.

Front

orange v2
red v1 and v2
pink v2
blue v2
pink v1
blue v1
purple v1
green v1
grey v1

Rear
orange v2 green v1
Red v2 grey v1
Pink v2 yellow v1
blue v2 white v1

All the v2 springs are 1.4 wire and bigger spaces between the coils. The front and rear springs are also longer than v1. If you have a hard time knowing what you have email me a picture and I can tell you. [email protected]

The serpent 8 hole pistons are the ones we use now. 600488 they are 1.2mm. We always drill the rear to 1.3. Sometimes the front depending on what oIl we use. If we have to get above 700 we keep the front stock and use lighter oil. I'd say leave the front undrilled for the time being to be safe and adjust the oil to be a heavier feel from the rear on the bench ready to race.

ForzaVeloce 06-09-2015 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14037309)
Is it the nano-tech ultimate that losses punch quickly? I'm hoping not, but would be good to know. SMC's race formula are my favorites, but they don't have any right now.

It's not the Ultimate ones, just the ordinary nano-tech 6.6 ones I have had problems with. Loosing punch rather quickly and I have had problems with 4 out of 8 swelling and loosing cells in under 100 charges, the worst one swelled up and lost one cell after just 10-15 charges. And that's when running low punch/timing with low gearing, cutoff at 3.4v and always storagecharge them directly after my last run.

The 5.6 and 5.8 ones I have has worked alot better and even though they get rather hot when running them in my Be they still function great after alot of abuse! :)

qstorm777 06-09-2015 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by chicky03 (Post 14043859)
Regardless of what the packaging says here is the springs in order of softest to stiffest.

Front

orange v2
red v1 and v2
pink v2
blue v2
pink v1
blue v1
purple v1
green v1
grey v1

Rear
orange v2 green v1
Red v2 grey v1
Pink v2 yellow v1
blue v2 white v1

All the v2 springs are 1.4 wire and bigger spaces between the coils. The front and rear springs are also longer than v1. If you have a hard time knowing what you have email me a picture and I can tell you. [email protected]

The serpent 8 hole pistons are the ones we use now. 600488 they are 1.2mm. We always drill the rear to 1.3. Sometimes the front depending on what oIl we use. If we have to get above 700 we keep the front stock and use lighter oil. I'd say leave the front undrilled for the time being to be safe and adjust the oil to be a heavier feel from the rear on the bench ready to race.

Thanks, that's good information.

qstorm777 06-09-2015 06:43 AM

Shock Pistons
 

The serpent 8 hole pistons are the ones we use now. 600488 they are 1.2mm. We always drill the rear to 1.3. Sometimes the front depending on what oIl we use. If we have to get above 700 we keep the front stock and use lighter oil. I'd say leave the front undrilled for the time being to be safe and adjust the oil to be a heavier feel from the rear on the bench ready to race.
Chicky, what is the benefit of the square holes (600488) vs the normal holes (600350)? Thanks.

chicky03 06-09-2015 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14046261)
Chicky, what is the benefit of the square holes (600488) vs the normal holes (600350)? Thanks.

The holes are round in both. We call the 488 square becasue the piston is not tapered. 350 is a tapered piston.

J.Elliott 06-11-2015 06:20 AM

Hey everyone! Hope racing is going well. I am looking for a little more forward bite and a little more rear rotation on power. Current set-up 2.0 with v1 diffs, 7, 7, 4, rear links are middle hole on hub and tower, should be 5 middle on the anti squat inserts. Thanks

chicky03 06-11-2015 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by J.Elliott (Post 14049220)
Hey everyone! Hope racing is going well. I am looking for a little more forward bite and a little more rear rotation on power. Current set-up 2.0 with v1 diffs, 7, 7, 4, rear links are middle hole on hub and tower, should be 5 middle on the anti squat inserts. Thanks

I would say anything that will soften up the rear end, hubs back, lighter rear swaybar, thinner oil, softer rear spring, 6 inserts in the rear blocks all around.

J.Elliott 06-11-2015 05:00 PM

Thanks Chicky!! I will give that a try.


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