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Vortexted 03-06-2012 12:19 AM

I came across a snag with my build. The steering is all put together, posts, links akerman bar etc...yet the assembly does not rotate smoothly. Its very stiff. Not like my 10th scale buggies that rotate so easily. I can't image a servo pushing this with any speed.

I loosened the tension on that spring and that helped a little but its not longer at 4mm like the manual says. Any suggestions?

silvalis 03-06-2012 04:12 AM

Anyone running an Orion R8Pro?
Can you show me how you managed to fit it in?


hmm... just found porkchops. tight. I can barely get it to fit like that...

atl darrick 03-06-2012 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10428168)
Has anyone tried this anti-roll bar shaft set and wires?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Bar-Shaft-Set

I really don't like the way the roll bars go and out, a real pain in the arse. wondering if this option is worth the upgrading too. Do the bars just slide in and out of it?

i've been eyeballin this part also and was thinking about buying it but i would also like to know if anyone has tried it yet

rcjunky10 03-06-2012 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10428324)
I came across a snag with my build. The steering is all put together, posts, links akerman bar etc...yet the assembly does not rotate smoothly. Its very stiff. Not like my 10th scale buggies that rotate so easily. I can't image a servo pushing this with any speed.

I loosened the tension on that spring and that helped a little but its not longer at 4mm like the manual says. Any suggestions?

The large spring you're referring to, servo saver spring, is not the culprit. It's most likely in the ackerman bar mounting screws. Try backing them out a full turn to see if that frees up your steering. If it does, Frank L gave me this tip, take the screws out completely and remove the ackerman bar. Put a drop of CA glue in the hole, careful not to get any on the contact surface where the ackerman plate sits, and then reassemble. When reassembling make sure not to over tighten these screws, just touch them down and the CA glue will help keep them from vibrating loose.

I had the same issue on my car and now all is buttery smooth!

bigjayjay1 03-06-2012 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10428324)
I came across a snag with my build. The steering is all put together, posts, links akerman bar etc...yet the assembly does not rotate smoothly. Its very stiff. Not like my 10th scale buggies that rotate so easily. I can't image a servo pushing this with any speed.

I loosened the tension on that spring and that helped a little but its not longer at 4mm like the manual says. Any suggestions?

The two screws that hold the akerman are too tight

Chad Millikan 03-06-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by bigjayjay1 (Post 10429041)
The two screws that hold the akerman are too tight

The tolerences on serpents are like no other. On my first gen. Nitro buggy no matter how far I backed out the Ackerman screw it was tight, so I wet sanded the shoulder till it was free

EJF 03-06-2012 08:59 AM

Im am considering getting an 811e buggy, but have some questions, is there any problem areas on this buggy? Does it require any upgrades? Is the parts support good, I know in the past serpent parts were hard to get.

rcq 03-06-2012 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10427641)
I run the Savox 1258 in my Losi SCTE which based off an 8th scale platform, but I'm told by friends running 8th a higher torque servo is required for these buggies.
I'm trying to decide between a Savox servo,
Or 2 different RadioPost servos.

The Torque model or the Multi model.

Torque Model,
torque @ 7.4V: 419 oz in
Speed: @ 7.4V: 0.09sec/60°

Multi Type Model
Torque:@ 7.4V: 305 oz in
Speed:@ 7.4V: 0.07sec/60°

In my 10th scale buggies and SC truck the Multi Model is perfect.

Any input from the Snake Pit please :D

I have run with savox 1267 on stearing and 1258 for throttle. 1258tg working good for throttle, and after year 1267 have burned. Now I change to Radio post Multi for throttle and Torgue for stearing. I like more Radiopost for stearing its look like its have more torgue and more speed. For throttle bougth good and 1258 and multiple.

Brian Miskolczi 03-06-2012 03:14 PM

Car is solid. Upgrades...Ive been running the car stock but the hard Anodized shock caps and the Aluminum towers would be worth the investment. You can find parts at Serpent America, or Absolute Hobbyz.

KIK 03-06-2012 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10428168)
Has anyone tried this anti-roll bar shaft set and wires?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Bar-Shaft-Set

I really don't like the way the roll bars go and out, a real pain in the arse. wondering if this option is worth the upgrading too. Do the bars just slide in and out of it?

I was thinking about trying it out but haven't gotten around to ordering yet.
They do just slide in and out.

Absolute hobbyz has them for half the price of Amain. Don't know if this price was a mistake but I would buy them quick before they catch on.

http://www.absolutehobbyz.com/produc...oducts_id=6642

http://www.absolutehobbyz.com/produc...oducts_id=6643

atl darrick 03-06-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by EJF (Post 10429703)
Im am considering getting an 811e buggy, but have some questions, is there any problem areas on this buggy? Does it require any upgrades? Is the parts support good, I know in the past serpent parts were hard to get.


also to add shock pistons, and ive gotten all my parts from amain so far.

netmaster 03-06-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10428168)
Has anyone tried this anti-roll bar shaft set and wires?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Bar-Shaft-Set

I really don't like the way the roll bars go and out, a real pain in the arse. wondering if this option is worth the upgrading too. Do the bars just slide in and out of it?

They do make changing the sway bars much easier. You will have to cut down the wire a few mm when using them in the front, otherwise it rubs the front bumper. These also run a little stiffer then the stock sway bars, so a 2.3mm (new) feels approximately like a 2.5mm (old).

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-32-52_126.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-32-34_314.jpg

Vortexted 03-06-2012 08:20 PM

Nice find
 
Thanks Kik...nice find. I ordered 4 of them.
Thanks for the pics Netmaster. Can I also use my existing 2.5 stock wire and cut it to work with this or do I need to order new wires?

I dont understand what the CA glue in the hole would do. I tried it with lock tight and seen no difference. I guess I may try the sanding next but seems to me something else is wrong since its tight even without the ackerman bar.

-Edit- after taking the the links off, I can see the problem lies in the carriers...they are to tight. I'm going to take some of those plastic spacers out and see if that helps.

bigjayjay1 03-06-2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by netmaster (Post 10432069)
They do make changing the sway bars much easier. You will have to cut down the wire a few mm when using them in the front, otherwise it rubs the front bumper. These also run a little stiffer then the stock sway bars, so a 2.3mm (new) feels approximately like a 2.5mm (old).

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-32-52_126.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...-32-34_314.jpg

Did you notice any peformace difference or is it more bling

Vortexted 03-06-2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by rcq (Post 10430017)
Now I change to Radio post Multi for throttle and Torgue for stearing. I like more Radiopost for stearing its look like its have more torgue and more speed. For throttle bougth good and 1258 and multiple.

Awesome thanks. I'm going to run the same in my Truggy.
RadioPost was at Nitro Challenge doing a show special for 40% off their products. I got them to hook me up after the fact since i couldn't find them during the finals. Got about $1600 worth of electronics (amain prices) for only $1100. 2 Radios, 2 cases, 5 receivers, 5 servos, 2 lipo batteries, and they threw in some hats, pit mat, lipo sack. a smoken deal. :nod:
My friends racing their products rave about them saying their cars are so much more responsive now, so I decided to go ALL IN at those prices.

BTW, RadioPost will be at the Las Vegas Silver State Nitro Challenge in April doing the same show special prices for anyone interested.
--goodbye Spektrum--


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