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Vortexted 03-04-2012 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by KIK (Post 10421818)
The jar of grease is what you can use on the ring and pinion gear. I like using Mobile 1 grease.

Is your arms binding with it assembled with everything else? If it's ur rear arm, check the outer captured hinge pin on the the upright. When that's being tightened, it can squeeze the plastic. Make sure there is a little slop. Also check the sway bar, where it's attached to the a-arm. If that big nut is too tight it will bind.

No it was binding with just the a arms attached, no load at all. I added some 25wt shock oil to the hinge pin and that helped. one is still not as smooth as I would like but maybe it will loosen up.


thanks

Vortexted 03-04-2012 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by HotBodiesVe8Boy (Post 10422160)
yes 2200kv motor is to much for racing anywhere on 4s period.
also i was having a look on amain through parts and noticed this and then noticed they don't have it for the 811-t or just the 811.

Is this a optional chassis? SER600470 Serpent 811e Hard Anodized Chassis

Is this the stock chassis? SER600445 Serpent S811e Chassis

thank you

Yes the 2nd one is the stock chassis. I didn't know they made that other chassis, probably less flexible . I really like the color of the stock chassis, looks nice.

porkchop 03-04-2012 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10422516)
No it was binding with just the a arms attached, no load at all. I added some 25wt shock oil to the hinge pin and that helped. one is still not as smooth as I would like but maybe it will loosen up.


thanks

i be willing to bet a dollor that it your sway bar nuts to tight ;)

deancoupland 03-04-2012 11:27 PM

is there a reason why the the S811 and S811e, which have the same diff case part numbers, have the front diff placed in the opposite way round

S811 - the drive gear is on the right hand side of the car
S811E - the drive gear is on the left hand side of the car

rcjunky10 03-05-2012 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by deancoupland (Post 10422912)
is there a reason why the the S811 and S811e, which have the same diff case part numbers, have the front diff placed in the opposite way round

S811 - the drive gear is on the right hand side of the car
S811E - the drive gear is on the left hand side of the car

It's so you wouldn't have to reverse your motor rotation in the ESC.....pretty clever those Serpent boys!

tony montana 03-05-2012 05:19 PM

you guys think the savox 1258 servo is good enough for steering? Thinks its got 140oz of torque

Vortexted 03-05-2012 08:31 PM

Servo Torque
 
I run the Savox 1258 in my Losi SCTE which based off an 8th scale platform, but I'm told by friends running 8th a higher torque servo is required for these buggies.
I'm trying to decide between a Savox servo,
Or 2 different RadioPost servos.

The Torque model or the Multi model.

Torque Model,
torque @ 7.4V: 419 oz in
Speed: @ 7.4V: 0.09sec/60°

Multi Type Model
Torque:@ 7.4V: 305 oz in
Speed:@ 7.4V: 0.07sec/60°

In my 10th scale buggies and SC truck the Multi Model is perfect.

Any input from the Snake Pit please :D

bigjayjay1 03-05-2012 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by tony montana (Post 10426415)
you guys think the savox 1258 servo is good enough for steering? Thinks its got 140oz of torque

It has 166 oz personally I would go higher min 300 but that's me a lot of abuse worth making precautions I run the Savox HV ones over a year no issues at all that's 8 servos

KIK 03-05-2012 08:53 PM

300oz of torque for steering is plenty. I use a Hitec 7955 333oz @ I think .15 for speed. Probably slower than what most would like but I can't tell on the track between .15 and .08.

batremi 03-05-2012 09:01 PM

type of motor/esc combo for my 811 be
 
hey guys. i finally got enough $ to get my motor esc combo and a set of lipos, for batteries i chose the TRACK POWER 50 c 6200 mah 2s packs. i wanted a tekin RX system but my hobby shop sold out and all they had left was a castle creations mamba monster brushless power system 2200 kv motor. but i found that the motor is too long and will not fit in the space where it's supposed to go. it hits the left steering post,to my dissapointment. :(. i take it the Tekin motor is shorter. please help im going back to my hobby store to trade for the rx Tekin system, as they are the same price. has any one else have this problem or am i missing something. please help ... I've had this buggy for 3 months already and am itching to race it, divorce is a mutha F%@ka .any help greatly appreciated

batremi 03-05-2012 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Vortexted (Post 10417900)
Thanks but I'm not talking about inside the diffs. I mean inside the transmission box, where the the pinion meets the larger gear wheel.

There is no other grease in my kit other the the small round jar labeled grease.

I took some transmission grease from my Losi kit to use.
And I put it on the plastic/metal gear mesh teeth inside the diff, correct?

Also one of my a-arms is binding, it doesn't flop up and down freely. I thought I remember back in this thread earlier about drilling those out. Or perhaps a little light oil? Any suggestions?

As well there is some slop moving forward and back on both of these a arms, no shims? Is this normal?


hey try Mobil sythetic red grease on the pinion and outer:nod: diff gear. its very good and doesn't breakdown easy, Any auto store will carry it. I also use it to lube my diff o-rings and the back of washers to prevent leaking. a must have in your pit area

KIK 03-05-2012 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by batremi (Post 10427766)
hey guys. i finally got enough $ to get my motor esc combo and a set of lipos, for batteries i chose the TRACK POWER 50 c 6200 mah 2s packs. i wanted a tekin RX system but my hobby shop sold out and all they had left was a castle creations mamba monster brushless power system 2200 kv motor. but i found that the motor is too long and will not fit in the space where it's supposed to go. it hits the left steering post,to my dissapointment. :(. i take it the Tekin motor is shorter. please help im going back to my hobby store to trade for the rx Tekin system, as they are the same price. has any one else have this problem or am i missing something. please help ... I've had this buggy for 3 months already and am itching to race it, divorce is a mutha F%@ka .any help greatly appreciated

Not familiar with Castle motors but the Tekin doesn't have fitment issues, but make sure it's for the buggy and not truggy. You can tell by the KV rating - 1400,1700,1900,2050,2650. If it's not one of these, then it's for the truggy and you will have the same issues.

Vortexted 03-05-2012 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by porkchop (Post 10422615)
i be willing to bet a dollor that it your sway bar nuts to tight ;)

I didn't have the sway bar on earlier when it was binding. Now that everything is on (less shocks) its all binding.
I mean when I push the A Arms up, they will not go back down on there own.

So I loosened the sway bar nuts and BOOM! Free Willy!

Good call.

Vortexted 03-05-2012 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by batremi (Post 10427783)
hey try Mobil sythetic red grease on the pinion and outer:nod: diff gear. its very good and doesn't breakdown easy, Any auto store will carry it. I also use it to lube my diff o-rings and the back of washers to prevent leaking. a must have in your pit area

I was reading about this very thing in the Lose SCTE thread to get those diffs to stop leaking as well. I was thinking about this when I was building it but didn't want to stop everything and run to the store. I didn't read anything in this 100+ thread about the Serpent diffs leaking so I thought it wasn't necessary.

so they do leak eh?

The diffs are all put together now but I will take them apart after I break it in to change the diff fluids so I will give it a try.
I know a guy, who talked to a guy, who used to be a guy, who sold her SCTE just because the diffs leaked...je je je.. ;)yet there was a fix all along. DOH

Thanks

Vortexted 03-05-2012 10:58 PM

Anti-roll bar shaft set and wires
 
Has anyone tried this anti-roll bar shaft set and wires?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-Bar-Shaft-Set

I really don't like the way the roll bars go and out, a real pain in the arse. wondering if this option is worth the upgrading too. Do the bars just slide in and out of it?


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