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Krio 01-03-2012 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by tom2tone (Post 10116924)
I'm not too familiar with this... Which is the better route? Is this to make the slipper work better? I think I may get the 4000kv.

The stock slipper uses one pad for the front and one pad for the rear. There just isn't enough friction for the rear when on power, so it ends up slipping and overheating with high torque motors like the pro4. The clutch basket adds another pad to the rear for more surface area/friction while the Garodisks have a higher coefficient of friction and don't require maintenance (the stock pads require re-scuffing as the face of the pads polish themselves against the aluminum plates over time). To have enough friction to properly get the power to the ground you only need one or the other, but you can also use them together.

LouDawg 01-03-2012 08:52 AM

I just ordered the RCShox center diff for my truck and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it yet. It looks awesome on the vids Mantisworx put up.

CraigMBA 01-03-2012 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by LouDawg (Post 10117040)
I just ordered the RCShox center diff for my truck and was wondering if anyone has any experience with it yet. It looks awesome on the vids Mantisworx put up.

I think you're getting one of the first ones. Please let us know how it goes.

tom2tone 01-03-2012 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Krio (Post 10116966)
The stock slipper uses one pad for the front and one pad for the rear. There just isn't enough friction for the rear when on power, so it ends up slipping and overheating with high torque motors like the pro4. The clutch basket adds another pad to the rear for more surface area/friction while the Garodisks have a higher coefficient of friction and don't require maintenance (the stock pads require re-scuffing as the face of the pads polish themselves against the aluminum plates over time). To have enough friction to properly get the power to the ground you only need one or the other, but you can also use them together.

Ok thanks again:D I think I'll start out with the garodisc and go from there. Which pinions will work on the pro4? On Amian they have 5mm 32p AE brand

BlueGlowBoy 01-03-2012 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by tom2tone (Post 10117133)
Ok thanks again:D I think I'll start out with the garodisc and go from there. Which pinions will work on the pro4? On Amian they have 5mm 32p AE brand

From your earlier post, I assume you mean for the 4000kv Pro4. For a small track (15-20 second lap times), 11 or 12t seems to be plenty. For a big track (30second+ lap times), you can probably go as high as a 14t. It's hard to say for sure without seeing the track. The one Mantis shows in most of his vids, to me, is a small track and he probably has a 12t on there. The track that is shown in "RCshoxmontage.wmv" on his youtube channel is a bigger track and I bet he's got a 14t in there.

Krio 01-03-2012 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by tom2tone (Post 10117133)
Ok thanks again:D I think I'll start out with the garodisc and go from there. Which pinions will work on the pro4? On Amian they have 5mm 32p AE brand

Those pinions will work. Anything with a 5mm bore and 32 pitch teeth. :D

JoeGolf 01-03-2012 09:27 AM

Serious price drop on Stormer, has the FT been announced somewhere?

vito 01-03-2012 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by JoeGolf (Post 10117183)
Serious price drop on Stormer, has the FT been announced somewhere?

its like a 40 buck drop and i dint see news on line of a ft kit .

MantisWorx 01-03-2012 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by B ELDRIDGE (Post 10114703)
I think I may have found a way to fix wobbly diffs. You cut down where the 10x16x4 bearing rides to about 1.25mm tall, then you can place a 5x10x3 bearing(AE91156) inside the other bearing for the outdrives to ride in.

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BRILLIANT, i feel pretty dumb for not figuring that one out!!:cry:


For those wondering about the Garodisc, they do not wear out and they do not glaze. Set them and forget about them!

Feedback on the center difs will be over the weekend , some will get them to day and some will get them thursday/friday, second runs are scheduled to ship out fri/mon and they will be in stock for good next week!

The pro4 is just a wicked motor! I run 15/60 with 10* of boost and after a ten min main it comes off at 170*. i will say that it works much better with taller gears, it wasnt that impressive with a 13 but woke up with the 14/15! i havent come across a 4600 in a Losi or AE that is faster!!

skengines 01-03-2012 09:48 AM

Anyone have the post to the quick diff removal
guide?

Steve737 01-03-2012 09:51 AM

What size spur? 58? 62?

Steve737 01-03-2012 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by skengines (Post 10117276)
Anyone have the post to the quick diff removal
guide?

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MantisWorx 01-03-2012 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by BlueGlowBoy (Post 10117170)
From your earlier post, I assume you mean for the 4000kv Pro4. For a small track (15-20 second lap times), 11 or 12t seems to be plenty. For a big track (30second+ lap times), you can probably go as high as a 14t. It's hard to say for sure without seeing the track. The one Mantis shows in most of his vids, to me, is a small track and he probably has a 12t on there. The track that is shown in "RCshoxmontage.wmv" on his youtube channel is a bigger track and I bet he's got a 14t in there.

i dont change gearing for tracks, the small track and the big track both have a 15/60. running smaller pinions on brushless motors will actually give you less punch. My tekin ran much hotter with a 13t than it does with the 15. maybe Krio can chime in on this. Watch this video at 2:40 this is not accelerated video it is 1:1 watch the accleration mid straight! I can run down e buggies:sneaky:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantisworx?feature=mhee

Mizchief 01-03-2012 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Krio (Post 10116739)
Most people are running the 4000 kv Pro4 over the 4600. Unless you are always at a giant track, the 4000 has enough power for the lighter SC10 4x4. Nothing wrong with the 4600, but you will be overpowered at the indoor tracks.

With the 4 pole motors I consider a clutch basket or Garodisks, full sway bar set, and something to stiffen the chassis (tube, CF brace, AL center chassis, etc).

I heard that the losi guys run the 4600 due to the extra weight, when running the exo tech or added lead weights on the sc10, does that change the equation?

MantisWorx 01-03-2012 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Mizchief (Post 10117409)
I heard that the losi guys run the 4600 due to the extra weight, when running the exo tech or added lead weights on the sc10, does that change the equation?

Nope! see video above:nod: 10min 170*


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