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MatSC8Lardi 11-17-2011 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 9921664)
Couldn't find much? There's only; easily 50 posts talking gearing about that exact motor. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I tease. But! Welcome to AE 4x4! Please. Read. the Thread. I understand it's 700 pages. Use the Thread Search and type in your general topic in question. And You will have doooooooooooozens of people talking about it. We Guarantee it! You will know this truck inside and out.

I've spent hours reading. I love it. I just don't understand why people have to change things that are perfectly fine the way they are. BUT, I am thinking about the chassis brace.

khshapiro 11-17-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 9921867)
Not to be rude or anything, but that is way overkill. The standard hole above motor/replace front underbodymount - I have tried, tested, bashed, and literally put the truck on the ground with no bumpers, and stood it on end, then began to lean my body into the truck. Only after I was almost entirely being held up by my truck did the brace crack the Carbon rod.

My chassis Brace All the while, No flex.

to each there own. have you really looked at my truck? I already use those points to mount my esc. and reciver box which do more good there than as a bracing point, your mounting points for the brace do not stop where the driveline flex comes from because your on the bulk head after the flex point. , this brace mounts at the areas that are moving inward and does keep both points stable, especially if your bashing and you keep hitting things. I'm not trying to take anything away from the other brace, if you run it and like it great. this is an option is much stronger , easier to install and remove since you dont have to take the motor out and lastly completely stops the driveline flex, which I hate no mattter how small. I was also working on an anti twisting brace but it ended up being more of a cage so I gave up.

Wild Cherry 11-17-2011 09:04 AM

Looks great to me Shapiro, now you can hit that
curb & things as hard as you wish ....:)

khshapiro 11-17-2011 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Mizchief (Post 9922138)
That's a sweet setup, what's the total capcity? 10,000mah?

How did you mount the esc? Did you make a platform for it to sit on?

its a 4s 1/8 scale Mamba Monster system I run, so the batteries are in series. it would be sick though on a 2s system running parallel 10000mah with 180c!
I screwed receiver box to the under body tray mount, mounted esc to a piece of lexan then mountee it to the rear tray mounting point.( I used the factory tabs unjust cut the nipples off them.) by mounting the esc higher also gives me more airflow on it.

khshapiro 11-17-2011 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 9923123)
Looks great to me Shapiro, now you can hit that
curb & things as hard as you wish ....:)

true true I have 3 of these now, is that overkill? :-)

fastrc64 11-17-2011 11:52 AM

Ack Bar
 
MantisWorx you did say you were going to be shipping out the first batch to all that pre ordered this friday right ?

Dano628 11-17-2011 12:14 PM

Just received my exotek chassis what a beautiful piece . I ordered it late Monday night can't believe it got here so fast . I will assemble it tonight and test it tomorrow at the local indoor high bite clay track and report back tomorrow night .

JEFFs SC10 11-17-2011 12:32 PM

I want to order those ackermans too.

CoyoteSlash 11-17-2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by khshapiro (Post 9923070)
to each there own. have you really looked at my truck? I already use those points to mount my esc. and reciver box which do more good there than as a bracing point, your mounting points for the brace do not stop where the driveline flex comes from because your on the bulk head after the flex point. , this brace mounts at the areas that are moving inward and does keep both points stable, especially if your bashing and you keep hitting things. I'm not trying to take anything away from the other brace, if you run it and like it great. this is an option is much stronger , easier to install and remove since you dont have to take the motor out and lastly completely stops the driveline flex, which I hate no mattter how small. I was also working on an anti twisting brace but it ended up being more of a cage so I gave up.

I understand the location of your esc and all your weird stuff. But like I had 'just' said. There is no flex. bashing, racing, doesn't matter. (I stood on the effin' thing) My argument as I said is it's 'too' strong. Pointless strong. Installing takes 1 time of removing the rear of the truck, then you can use a nut to remove the brace from that point on. And "lastly" It 'does' stop driveline Flex. I combatted everything you just said in my previous post! :p

The Fact is, You have a SC-Frankenstein, and you made it work. i'm just saying, you're above and beyond overkill. Am I defending my brace? I won't deny a little. Because how you said it in the first post was saying it doesn't do it's job. Which it does. More than 150pounds worth of it's job. :smile:

No hard feelings, upset or anything. Only debating.



Originally Posted by MatSC8Lardi (Post 9922769)
I've spent hours reading. I love it. I just don't understand why people have to change things that are perfectly fine the way they are. BUT, I am thinking about the chassis brace.

It's their nature. I'm with you on about 80% of it. But there are some things even if they seem 'ok' they can be so much better. That's how you compete right?



Originally Posted by fastrc64 (Post 9923849)
MantisWorx you did say you were going to be shipping out the first batch to all that pre ordered this friday right ?

Yep

Mizchief 11-17-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by MatSC8Lardi (Post 9922769)
I've spent hours reading. I love it. I just don't understand why people have to change things that are perfectly fine the way they are. BUT, I am thinking about the chassis brace.

and so it begins.... :)

hey, what else is there todo between races?

Mizchief 11-17-2011 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by khshapiro (Post 9923221)
its a 4s 1/8 scale Mamba Monster system I run, so the batteries are in series. it would be sick though on a 2s system running parallel 10000mah with 180c!
I screwed receiver box to the under body tray mount, mounted esc to a piece of lexan then mountee it to the rear tray mounting point.( I used the factory tabs unjust cut the nipples off them.) by mounting the esc higher also gives me more airflow on it.

Damn, I bet you can smoke the ebuggies with that setup :) Besides insane power, how does it handle with all the extra weight?

CentralCoaster 11-17-2011 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 9909656)
easier solution is to use Garodisc's!!:nod:
i am experimenting with grease instead of oil to help keep the outdrive slop to a minimum. if it leaks less than less dirt gets inside the gear case and wont eat up the housing as quick. Kyosho makes some very good dif grease, its a pain to clean when changing viscosity but it wont leak out nearly as quick. i will change the front next week after i see how the rear holds up.

Garodiscs may be easier, but I think a 6mm shim will be a whole lot cheaper. Also, garodiscs don't address the issue really, unless they are actually thicker than the stock pads.

How do the aluminum plates wear with the garodiscs?

CentralCoaster 11-17-2011 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by khshapiro (Post 9921729)
after building and using the chassis brace that bolts into the bulk heads, i decided i didnt like it, there was still to much flexing for me . So i made this one that connected the front and rear diff. And now no flexing of the drive line. The hardest thing, if you could even consider it hard was finding 50mm threads and cutting it to fit. that part took the longest .... start to finish 5min. ive been running it for a little while now and still , no flexing, i think its a great mod for anyone not using the exotek chassis , and honestly i think i am going to make one and carry it over to my race truck using the exotek...here are a few pics

all this from a hotel room!

Some flex is good. I don't want the transmission cases taking all that force. My brace goes from the front underbody mount to the rear screw of the center web in the middle chassis piece. I'm hoping this leaves enough flex to take hard hits without enough to let the belt loose.

CentralCoaster 11-17-2011 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by BlueGlowBoy (Post 9922267)
I was thinking SunGear side, as all the pressure is coming from the pin, and if the pin is still fully supported, then it doesn't matter how much bigger THAT shim is, and on the diff housing side, the larger shim would mean that there should be less opportunity for wobble...

Here is an EXTREMELY crude drawing of what I mean:

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/15/65/42/25/diff_s10.jpg

Left one is better in theory, but probably not by any significant amount.

Better than both would be a single shim of proper thickness. A single thicker shim won't flex as easily when side loaded by the pin.

Mizchief 11-17-2011 05:28 PM

Are there any good misc. shim, washer, screw, etc. kits out there for 1/10th rc? Or a combination of other kits that will have something to get me by when i need to McGyver something at the track?


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