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Old 11-06-2011 | 04:05 PM
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Anyone notice anything?




Nice and clean.

What guards are you using?
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Old 11-06-2011 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac The Knife
Here's my "For Sale" thread,,,, lotsa install pictures and info. http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...ch-basket.html
I think the bottle/screwdriver trick worked. I will try it out tomorrow.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 04:59 PM
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when will those ackerman bars be ready to buy?

I haven't ran my truck in a while, kinda shelved it after having so many belt issues.

Are people running chassis supports?

I left off when people were starting to run saddle packs with success. Now that the weather is cooler it makes it a lot easier to race here.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sedemente
So let me ask why the flaming of Billy? Did coke not do cherry coke cause pepsi had cherry pepsi? How bout tires , proline suburbs look alot like Jconcepts barcodes . Even you mantis your two stage pistons are the exact same as the rpm two stage that have been out for years.But still Billy gets flamed. Do we not live in a capitalistic society?I have been self employed for 18 years and seen the good and bad of business. Yes it sucks to have (ideas, thoughts, and or jobs) quote, unquote TAKEN. But my opinion is this is business 101 , who can make the best product,for the best price , and give the best service.

have you ever seen the RPM pistons? they are nothing like mine and they only made one size which fits nothing in this era of RC. matl is different and design is not even close. Billy's products are EXACT clones of other mfg designs, its a simple as that. it would be different if he came up with something of his own idea and intention. As it stands now it just seems like they wait for something new to come out and then copy it. That may not be the intention but so far the brace and basket are clones. If my pistons were molded plastic, red, green and purple and made to only fit a first gen RC10 tub buggy or slash then you would have a point, but you dont

Let me add that i dont know him or ever talked to him and he is probably a great guy, i only know what i see.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
when will those ackerman bars be ready to buy?

I haven't ran my truck in a while, kinda shelved it after having so many belt issues.

Are people running chassis supports?

I left off when people were starting to run saddle packs with success. Now that the weather is cooler it makes it a lot easier to race here.
testing will be wednesday morning more than likely late next week they will be ready to sell.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
testing will be wednesday morning more than likely late next week they will be ready to sell.
Hard to beat! The factory's, design, test, ship to China, get that part back from China, test it, then get more and package for sale. ETA 6 to 8 weeks.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
testing will be wednesday morning more than likely late next week they will be ready to sell.
Screw that, just build some and ship it. That way your customers can test it out for you and tell you what a bad job you did, OR if it does test okay just speed up the product cycle so some other random dude can knock it off since you did the R&D for him .

Come to think of it, just save Billy the trouble and email him the CAD file. [/sarcasm].
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Old 11-06-2011 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
Screw that, just build some and ship it. That way your customers can test it out for you and tell you what a bad job you did, OR if it does test okay just speed up the product cycle so some other random dude can knock it off since you did the R&D for him .

Come to think of it, just save Billy the trouble and email him the CAD file. [/sarcasm].

ROFL!! your killing me!
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
Screw that, just build some and ship it. That way your customers can test it out for you and tell you what a bad job you did, OR if it does test okay just speed up the product cycle so some other random dude can knock it off since you did the R&D for him .

Come to think of it, just save Billy the trouble and email him the CAD file. [/sarcasm].
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
testing will be wednesday morning more than likely late next week they will be ready to sell.
ok kool thanks, I should send my truck to you to dial in.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
ok kool thanks, I should send my truck to you to dial in.
send it! i will definitely hook it up!!
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Krio
Here is my RX8 Setup.

Timing advance: 10 (equivalent of 3 degrees of timing on 'other brand' esc's)
Timing range: Default (approx 5k to 20k)
Throttle profile: 3
Drag brake: 0
Brake strength: 60 is the most I've ever needed. I dial it back according to the track surface so that I'm just shy of locking the tires up. 50 is a safe all around number, but gearing will also affect this.
Throttle minimum: 10
Brake minimum: 10
Reverse strength: 20 (just enough to roll backwards if I need to during practice)

This is all geared at either 15 or 16 teeth on the pinion with the 62 tooth spur for my local tracks. Temp your motor after 3 and 5 minutes and gear accordingly, but I come off between 140 and 180 depending on the track.

lmk if I missed any... lol
Kiro, ran your settings and they are perfect! Much to my surprise I had the fastest truck on the track today running 15/62 gearing. Using 50c 5000 mah saddle pack the motor was 132° after 6 mins with 1 min of warm up laps, and only 142° after 8 mins. I used 2800-2900mah each run and the esc never had more than one light lit so temps were very low. Lipo temps were 92-94° and MTK slipper with HD pads was 90-92° with nut flush on the topshaft on a high bite indoor clay track. The current limiter was set at 60 btw.

The truck pulled a couple wheelies down the front straight and was notably faster than another SC10 with a Tekin 4.5 550 motor geared the same using a MMP esc. It flat out smoked a second SC10 running a Castle 3800 4 pole and MMP esc out of the corners and out ran it down the straight which surprised me, same gearing again.

While finishing the truck (even before running it) I was second guessing not getting a 4600kv motor initially, but the RX8 and 4000kv Pro4 combination has surpassed my expectations. I just have to learn how to control my throttle finger.

Thanks for your help on motor/gearing and ESC settings!

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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
have you ever seen the RPM pistons? they are nothing like mine and they only made one size which fits nothing in this era of RC. matl is different and design is not even close. Billy's products are EXACT clones of other mfg designs, its a simple as that. it would be different if he came up with something of his own idea and intention. As it stands now it just seems like they wait for something new to come out and then copy it. That may not be the intention but so far the brace and basket are clones. If my pistons were molded plastic, red, green and purple and made to only fit a first gen RC10 tub buggy or slash then you would have a point, but you dont

Let me add that i dont know him or ever talked to him and he is probably a great guy, i only know what i see.
So throwing some facts out there Billy has been involved in racing for 20-25 years .He has built real trophy trucks that have won major races such as the Baja 1000 . That is besides the point though his chassis brace had started with three different designs .I know this for a fact cause we had the first generation braces.Now onto my other thoughts , you guys still acuse him of stealing but what about my examples of,soda,tires,and shock pistons. Mantis in your case you dont know the rpm pistons are for the sc10 ?I bought them a year and a half ago.So yours are different cause the color(If my pistons were molded plastic, red, green and purple)you are using the same exact theory are you not? I like you said about Billy ,I am sure you are a gentleman as well as every other person on here that has voiced their opinions.I am glad that there are smart guys out there figuring out how to make these trucks faster and easier to drive, but in the end the IDEA MEN will lose when the manufatures use YOUR ideas .
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:45 PM
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Another wrinkle in the story. Fast lap Proucts has DONATED $150 to the LHS point series to be distributed to the last place drivers in each class who raced every race. His idea giving back to the racer who is challenged. Also donated money for the LHS Toys for Tot race.Have any of you flamers stepped up?
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Old 11-06-2011 | 06:58 PM
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I think most people are just poking fun at fastlaps.
Really great job by both (also MTK) getting idea's in to reality for people to purchase quickly.
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