SC10 4x4 Thread
#5971
Let's see some pics of the outer slipper pad in a clutch basket.
I am curious how they look compared to mine
I will take my pic at lunch
Man it works great, I used to get destroyed off the line by the 1/8 buggies, er the 3 diff pro4 trucks. Not anymore
I am curious how they look compared to mine
I will take my pic at lunch
Man it works great, I used to get destroyed off the line by the 1/8 buggies, er the 3 diff pro4 trucks. Not anymore
#5972
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,974
From: Norwood, OH...and CCRCR and The OhioRCFactory
The arm mounts are cool, with the delrin inserts, but the hub carriers and caster blocks (at least in ThunderbirdJunkie's personal experience) on the XXX-SCT and SC10 2w develop slop in the bearing area in addition to the hingepin holes.
That being said...he may consider picking some of the rear hub carriers up in .5 degree flavor.
That being said...he may consider picking some of the rear hub carriers up in .5 degree flavor.
#5973
I liked the ectec inserts I had in the past for my MBX5 back in the day, they were made so that you needed only one mount for the various settings (instead of the two STRC is using). Too bad they couldn't of made them like that.
#5974
I think you are on to something by adding all that weight. I am running mine with a saddle pack conversion but have recently added about 4 oz of weight to the truck to start. I have a theory about why this truck is so loose compared to the Losi which is just dead stable.
I believe the truck is just too light. This would not be a problem if the bodies were lightweight, but unfortunately they are not. Therefore, the relative CG of the truck is much higher than the heavier trucks with a body installed. Due to the lightweight of the truck, the truck has to be sprung softly to generate grip, and this makes the truck dump the suspension in hard corners forcing people to "drive it like a 2wd". If the truck is sprung harder, then it just lacks the necessary traction overall.
I will experiment this weekend with a heavier truck and will add more weight and spring the truck harder until I get a more stable and easy to drive truck. This truck is 4WD and it should not have to be driven like a 2WD.
Personally, I still have not had trouble with the stock slipper, but I am sure that with the heavier vehicle, the clutch basket will be a must, so keep that in mind.
I believe the truck is just too light. This would not be a problem if the bodies were lightweight, but unfortunately they are not. Therefore, the relative CG of the truck is much higher than the heavier trucks with a body installed. Due to the lightweight of the truck, the truck has to be sprung softly to generate grip, and this makes the truck dump the suspension in hard corners forcing people to "drive it like a 2wd". If the truck is sprung harder, then it just lacks the necessary traction overall.
I will experiment this weekend with a heavier truck and will add more weight and spring the truck harder until I get a more stable and easy to drive truck. This truck is 4WD and it should not have to be driven like a 2WD.
Personally, I still have not had trouble with the stock slipper, but I am sure that with the heavier vehicle, the clutch basket will be a must, so keep that in mind.
#5975
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Is it just me ? The plastic cartridge that holds the o-rings is giving me fits threading into the alum. body. Anyone else experiencing this ? This is not my first rodeo and I have not striped them out as I refuse to force them as I can seem them start to tilt. All four are responding the same way.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Thanks in advance for any help.
#5976
Is it just me ? The plastic cartridge that holds the o-rings is giving me fits threading into the alum. body. Anyone else experiencing this ? This is not my first rodeo and I have not striped them out as I refuse to force them as I can seem them start to tilt. All four are responding the same way.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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#5979
Is it just me ? The plastic cartridge that holds the o-rings is giving me fits threading into the alum. body. Anyone else experiencing this ? This is not my first rodeo and I have not striped them out as I refuse to force them as I can seem them start to tilt. All four are responding the same way.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Thanks in advance for any help.
After i had my dilemma with my shocks someone on here wrote that ae recommended removing the first thread from the plastic cartridge i guess. maybe try doing a search. probably around 10-20 pages back.
#5980
Its 91090, the first part in that image is the slipper thrust spacer, then the slipper thrust bearing, and then the slipper thrust washer.. The manual as that image shows has just one slipper thrust washer, put one or two more of those washers there if you are slipping excessively, its better to put the washers there than putting them between the slipper plate and spring imo..
Some put that slipper thrust spacer in backwards causing a heap of more issues, like melting your slipper assembly and spur...

Check your spacer bc based on your pics it seems that i can see the lip of the slipper thrust spacer sticking out, which if so would indicate that it was assembled incorrectly, and causing your slipper issues..Page 27 of the manual shows in which way the spacer should be assembled, with the lip going into the shaft housing (not out as it seems your photo shows, which I have done and seen others do causing major slipper problems, including excessive slipping, excessive slipper heat, melting spurs and pads with no regard)..
MarqueeRc thinks its worth checking

[/QUOTE]The washer and all of the slipper is installed and always was installed correctly. I checked when this originally happened and after your reply, Marquee. I used a second spring cap (for the locknut to have a seat on the spring) on the end of the shaft, tighened it almost to full compression and I have torque now. What my question is, is WHAT is constructed or machined wrong? I want my truck working properly for racing so I can adjust from there. This "fix" is not leaving me with ANY play at all. Anyone? (please refer to pics on pages 395-6.)
I guess I just thought it was something obvious since I bought all the new hardware and it didn't fix the issue. But the Slipper system IS installed correctly. I have checked multiple times.
Thanks in advance!
#5981
The washer and all of the slipper is installed and always was installed correctly. I checked when this originally happened and after your reply, Marquee. I used a second spring cap (for the locknut to have a seat on the spring) on the end of the shaft, tighened it almost to full compression and I have torque now. What my question is, is WHAT is constructed or machined wrong? I want my truck working properly for racing so I can adjust from there. This "fix" is not leaving me with ANY play at all. Anyone? (please refer to pics on pages 395-6.)
I guess I just thought it was something obvious since I bought all the new hardware and it didn't fix the issue. But the Slipper system IS installed correctly. I have checked multiple times.
Thanks in advance!
I guess I just thought it was something obvious since I bought all the new hardware and it didn't fix the issue. But the Slipper system IS installed correctly. I have checked multiple times.
Thanks in advance!
How many slipper thrust spacers are you using?
#5983
#5985
1. The washers in the thrust bearing (part 91090) are too thin from the factory. Add washers there, I think they are quarter inch. Be careful to not add too many as this fix will cause misalignment in the belt.
2. Some claim the outside slipper plate (part 7485) is mis-machined at the center, and the center part causes an interference with the top shaft. This allows you to only tighten it down till it it hits the top shaft. Further compressing the spring doesn't get any more pressure on the slipper. You can check to see if yours has this problem by marking the top shaft with the slipper installed, and then disassembling the slipper, and re-install in the plate to the mark. Clearance as needed.
3. Break down for $35 and buy the Mac The Knife slipper basket and be happy.
4. Shelf the truck till AE gets the update parts out.
All of these are well documented in this thread. In the future, I suggest trying this:

I swear, you are bound to save time and frustration.



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