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Old 07-07-2011 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
No no no.... not a band-aid. You have my assurance that it is a legitimate concern. Check your stock pads first though. It's a lackluster design pushing all that rear power through a single slipper pad. I think the main issue is that AE has a bunch of stoner dropouts engineering it's products getting paid in peanut-butter filled pretzels. Those guys took lots of engineering classes and may have even graduated but couldn't get real jobs so they are designing toy cars and doing a stellarly mediocre job at it.
wow dude, correct me if im wrong but didnt you win with your truck on its maiden voyage... i know thats not sating a lot after marshaling for the 4x4 amain tonight but it did get you to the finish first.
I think you may be the stoner drop out kevin just kidding man
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Old 07-07-2011 | 05:03 AM
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Hey Salad, I know the 1410 has more powere but its killing my batteries, and while its smooth, it doesnt feel precise, meaning that the throttle imputs and the rpms dont feel conststently the same. Somethimes te same amount of throttle as the last lap is not enough to clear the big double smoothly. does this make sense? Like with my 1/8 scale, your finger memorizes o much throttle to give on each jump, too much and your overshooting, too little and your casing it.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 05:08 AM
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Hey Salad, I know the 1410 has more powere but its killing my batteries, and while its smooth, it doesnt feel precise, meaning that the throttle imputs and the rpms dont feel conststently the same. Somethimes te same amount of throttle as the last lap is not enough to clear the big double smoothly. does this make sense? Like with my 1/8 scale, your finger memorizes o much throttle to give on each jump, too much and your overshooting, too little and your casing it.
Could be the batteries and the voltage drop they have is more evident on the last laps.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 05:16 AM
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But this happens from the first lap to the second. i dunno, need sensored.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 06:17 AM
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Hey Salad, I know the 1410 has more powere but its killing my batteries, and while its smooth, it doesnt feel precise, meaning that the throttle imputs and the rpms dont feel conststently the same. Somethimes te same amount of throttle as the last lap is not enough to clear the big double smoothly. does this make sense? Like with my 1/8 scale, your finger memorizes o much throttle to give on each jump, too much and your overshooting, too little and your casing it.
Its exactly because its sensorless. Reaction to throttle and brake inputs will not be consistent. I pulled out my 1410 and went back to my Tekin 550 motor due to this reason. Sensored will always be smoother and more consistent than sensorless.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
No no no.... not a band-aid. You have my assurance that it is a legitimate concern. Check your stock pads first though. It's a lackluster design pushing all that rear power through a single slipper pad. I think the main issue is that AE has a bunch of stoner dropouts engineering it's products getting paid in peanut-butter filled pretzels. Those guys took lots of engineering classes and may have even graduated but couldn't get real jobs so they are designing toy cars and doing a stellarly mediocre job at it.
As I stated previously, I feel AE has designed an incredible truck and I do nto agree with the above statement. It handles great, very durable and is capable of winning at any level. It is also hard for them to know how much power we would be strapping into these things. If you were only running a standard 2 pole 540 motor I don't think you would ever have much problems with the slipper. I run a 4.5 turn 550 motor and it creates to much heat with the stock slipper. I am sure they will do something to solve this issue as a Factory Team Upgrade but for now the clutch basket is a perfect solution. I am still very happy with the truck and no even more so. I can now put down the extra power that I have in the truck that I couldn't before.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 06:24 AM
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Its exactly because its sensorless. Reaction to throttle and brake inputs will not be consistent. I pulled out my 1410 and went back to my Tekin 550 motor due to this reason. Sensored will always be smoother and more consistent than sensorless.
I ran my truck in a sensorless mode a few times myself and found that same issue to be true. The sensored setup is much smoother and throttle position always is the same until pack voltage starts to drop off. You need a pretty stought battery for this truck.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 07:54 AM
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If you are using a tekin or castle esc the current limiting feature will help with that. I run my mmpro at 30% limiting and it feels as smooth as my ballistic 550. Without it it feels too aggressive and inconsistent. Running an external bec also helped out a lot. Mine cogged and did weird stuff without it.
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Old 07-07-2011 | 08:16 AM
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I think y'all may be diagnosing the issue correctly, but applying the wrong cure.

I've noticed the same thing. Flipped the slipper pads and gone back out and problem solved.

Sensored guys, are you running pure sensored or smart sense (or whatever they call going from sensored at startup to unsensored once underway)?

If you're running in a hybrid mode, once you're rolling, sensored mode gets shut off...just saying....
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Old 07-07-2011 | 08:34 AM
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so for the extra slipper pad you need to run the clutch basket setup, what is everyone going with? The HT pad or plain stock?
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Old 07-07-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Anyone know when we will see some springs availible for this thing? Or some that fit?
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Old 07-07-2011 | 08:48 AM
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underbody cover would be nice too.. ETA?
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Old 07-07-2011 | 08:50 AM
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underbody cover would be nice too.. ETA?
Will have next week
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Old 07-07-2011 | 09:03 AM
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dumb question as the sc104x4 is still sitting in the box, does it include HT pads, if so how many?
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Old 07-07-2011 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain
dumb question as the sc104x4 is still sitting in the box, does it include HT pads, if so how many?
No, they're not included. It comes with standard pads.
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