SC10 4x4 Thread
I bought my FT SC10 4X4 about a year ago. Ran it a few times, got a little frustrated, and put it away until recently. I have been making adjustments, largest going from a stick pack set-up, side, to a square battery set up, center. Big improvement! Really the only thing I am unhappy with is rear traction exiting corners. The truck wants to spin out exiting corners.
Rough set up:
Front Diff 7K
Rear Diff 5K
Shocks F 35W, R 30W
Clicker locked
Proline Suburbs/Blue Closed Cell on all 4
Tekin 4000K Motor
Other than that set-up per build instructions
Track Medium traction clay
Any Suggestions?
Oh, this is my first 4X4.
Rough set up:
Front Diff 7K
Rear Diff 5K
Shocks F 35W, R 30W
Clicker locked
Proline Suburbs/Blue Closed Cell on all 4
Tekin 4000K Motor
Other than that set-up per build instructions
Track Medium traction clay
Any Suggestions?
Oh, this is my first 4X4.
Another item would be the M2C Rear toe in block for more toe. those two items really helped getting the rear end planted and overall performance.
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Joined: Feb 2014
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part 1 you need 12mm ballstud. i think 10mm works to.
part 2you need a taller hub to make your camber links even so you don't get crazy camber gains
part 3 buy shims that = 8mm
what it does it try to fix a bad design truck... there to much weight in the rear... so this mod lower the roll center!!! by doing this it make the chassis roll less (move weight around less in the rear)... kinda like sway-bar but it does not restrict the suspension movement(so you would keep more grip).
part 2you need a taller hub to make your camber links even so you don't get crazy camber gains
part 3 buy shims that = 8mm
what it does it try to fix a bad design truck... there to much weight in the rear... so this mod lower the roll center!!! by doing this it make the chassis roll less (move weight around less in the rear)... kinda like sway-bar but it does not restrict the suspension movement(so you would keep more grip).
part 1 you need 12mm ballstud(http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...Ballstud-Set-2) i think 10mm works to.
part 2you need a taller hub to make your camber links even so you don't get crazy camber gains (http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...-C-Tower-Set-2)
part 3 buy shims that = 8mm
what it does it try to fix a bad design truck... there to much weight in the rear... so this mod lower the roll center!!! by doing this it make the chassis roll less (move weight around less in the rear)... kinda like sway-bar but it does not restrict the suspension movement(so you would keep more grip).
part 2you need a taller hub to make your camber links even so you don't get crazy camber gains (http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...-C-Tower-Set-2)
part 3 buy shims that = 8mm
what it does it try to fix a bad design truck... there to much weight in the rear... so this mod lower the roll center!!! by doing this it make the chassis roll less (move weight around less in the rear)... kinda like sway-bar but it does not restrict the suspension movement(so you would keep more grip).
This mod only works on loose tracks and will lead to traction rolling on high bite tracks which is why those who try and run this mod on high grip have to lower the front roll center to take some bite out of the front. Raising the outside links raises roll center not lower. The longer your links the more body roll you will get which will lead to more lateral grip. short links tend to rotate more. A sway bar also is not a good way to compare the 8mm mod, a sway bar limits roll and takes grip away because it takes away weight transfer, This is why this trucks likes a really stiff front sway bar and low front roll center because due to the placement of the motor it tends to transfer lots of weight towards the front on turn entry.
The easiest way to explain the feel of the 8mm mod is that the rear tends to follow the front around but in control. But will start to grab after its initial movement (traction roll)
so in short:
- lower roll center has less entry grip more exit grip
- higher roll center has more initial grip but less exit grip
- sway bars limit traction on said end
- the 8mm mod works best on loose tracks
- when you raise the inside and outside roll centers at the same time it lowers roll center
By definition raising the inside and outside lower roll center so on a fast sweeper the rear of the truck will drift and then grab and that usually ends up rolling over. On a short low speed tight track it may work ok but not really needed.
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Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 5
I have the M2C toe block and have wound up snapping 4 hinge pins(average one a race day) and I'm tired of DNFng the mains. Has anyone else encountered this problem? There isnt any binding of the arms at all, just both ends snap at the fillet every time. Anyone know of a solution?
I have the M2C toe block and have wound up snapping 4 hinge pins(average one a race day) and I'm tired of DNFng the mains. Has anyone else encountered this problem? There isnt any binding of the arms at all, just both ends snap at the fillet every time. Anyone know of a solution?
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Posts: 5
It doesn't really happen after a crash. We have a big triple in our infield that is easily cleared by this truck and i'll downside it and seems like every main (after two heats) the passenger rear shears off the front and back of the pin and I'm done. The triple is the only impact that is hard on the track and we average 12 laps a race. I'm running 2 antisquat and 3.5 toe at the moment. I'll give them a call.
It doesn't really happen after a crash. We have a big triple in our infield that is easily cleared by this truck and i'll downside it and seems like every main (after two heats) the passenger rear shears off the front and back of the pin and I'm done. The triple is the only impact that is hard on the track and we average 12 laps a race. I'm running 2 antisquat and 3.5 toe at the moment. I'll give them a call.



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