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Old 11-05-2012 | 07:28 AM
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You may want to search the thread for more info but in general I haven't heard of people have success using the sidewinder in 4x4 SCT usage and I am not sure if castle even recommends it for that.

The MMP can be used but may need an external BEC and from what people have been saying it doesn't seem to deliver the power like the Tekin RX8. Some have also reported drops in temps when using the Tekin RX8 in comparison to the MMP. Considering the RX8 though was designed for 1/8 usage, not surprised lol.

Again, just what has been reported.

For me personally I have been using the Speed Passion GT2.0 Pro line of ESCs and it works great with the Tekin Pro4 motor I am using. A buddy of mine is using the newer Reventon Pro ESC which is even more powerful with success. For the money ($130ish for the Reventon Pro, $99 for the GT2.0 Pro), you get good bang for the buck.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by aaron2u
Hey guys, just picked up a slightly used SC10 4x4 and was wondering... How far off the pace is the Castle SV2 / 3800 compared to a Tekin RX8 / Pro 4 4000kv setup? Will be running on a smaller 18 second medium bit, indoor clay track.

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Total power wise it's not too far off, but it has more natural drag brake and isn't as smooth which is more critical to lap times than pure power. If you're just getting your feet wet the Castle setup will suffice, but if you plan to race in the 4x4 SCT class for the forseeable future you'd save money in the long run investing in the RX8/Pro4 setup.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 07:32 AM
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LOL. Fight time now Krio!
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Old 11-05-2012 | 07:34 AM
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LOL. Fight time now Krio!
Bring it! I got the doctor recommended 8 hours of sleep last night, so there's no way I'll lose.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 07:40 AM
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lol guys, thanks for the input. It came with the truck, so I'll just flip it and try to get some money back. thanks again!

Turns out this is a SCT version, does that help? Sorry for the newbie questions, this is my first Castle product.

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Old 11-05-2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tom2tone
Hey Guys... I just had a heck of a time rebuilding my truck for the second time. I learned some hard lessons and now can take apart the truck pretty quickly

So my question is, which shims should I have on-hand to shim the diffs? I've read about every size and was curious to what people are using.

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hi. I did use 2x0.2mm under the sun gears and the stock shims on the outdrive.
Smooth as butter now.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aaron2u
lol guys, thanks for the input. It came with the truck, so I'll just flip it and try to get some money back. thanks again!

Turns out this is a SCT version, does that help? Sorry for the newbie questions, this is my first Castle product.
Sidewinder: SV2 and SCT - both same, received a 30-40% increase in power delivery over original version. Castle says it can handle SC 4x4's

Mamba Max Pro: SCT or Normal version - great 1/10 or 1/8 sensored ESC. Most likely going to need an external BEC (battery elimination circuit). It has a programable one, but it is weak, especially with high voltage servos (Savox, etc.). For the price, it can compete with the RX8. Can pick them up for $90-100.

Mamba Monster: made for 1/8 non-sensored platforms. Overkill for 1/10. Good for running 1/8 motors.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 03:19 PM
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it can compete, but will loose every time
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Old 11-05-2012 | 04:45 PM
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Ignore him. A ESC has nothing to do with "winning" or not winning if it can finish a race. A Castle MMP has no problem on indoor tracks and medium loose tracks. The problem comes when you're running a larger track with alot of traction, you tend to over-volt the speedo and it starts becoming intermitent on it's reliability. This is a immediate turn off for a dedicated racer.

I raced an entire season before my MMP said goodnight. And I did very well. You will need a BEC and be gentle with the Sensor port, but it will work.

I switched because the MMP was not "reliable" in my 4x4 racing situation. I ran mmp's in my 2wd's and slash 4x4 racer for another year before I decided to streamline my garage into tekin. I also have several buddies who's kids run MMP's competitively in mod classes just fine.

That being said: There is a reason people run the bad-boy speedos. They "are" better. But don't go around believing these try-hard's statements that they are holding you back.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TXRC8racer
I just bought a diff rebuild kit that comes with all gears, pins, shims. It was like 14$ and I just used the standard shims and doubled up on the shims on the sun gear. It took all my diff skipping away.!
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from what I have read, people are either doing .5mm under the sun gear (removing that shim between the diff and cup) or .4mm under the sun, and I think the same shim removal
Originally Posted by xray808-11
hi. I did use 2x0.2mm under the sun gears and the stock shims on the outdrive.
Smooth as butter now.

Thanks guys!

I ended up just adding another shim under the sun gear that came in the diff rebuild bag. Would it be wise to remove the shim between the cup and the diff? It doesnt seem to tight but last time I did that, the shims underneath the sun gear was concave.
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Old 11-05-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SC Shaun
Ignore him. A ESC has nothing to do with "winning" or not winning if it can finish a race. A Castle MMP has no problem on indoor tracks and medium loose tracks. The problem comes when you're running a larger track with alot of traction, you tend to over-volt the speedo and it starts becoming intermitent on it's reliability. This is a immediate turn off for a dedicated racer.

I raced an entire season before my MMP said goodnight. And I did very well. You will need a BEC and be gentle with the Sensor port, but it will work.

I switched because the MMP was not "reliable" in my 4x4 racing situation. I ran mmp's in my 2wd's and slash 4x4 racer for another year before I decided to streamline my garage into tekin. I also have several buddies who's kids run MMP's competitively in mod classes just fine.

That being said: There is a reason people run the bad-boy speedos. They "are" better. But don't go around believing these try-hard's statements that they are holding you back.
Wow, Shaun, that was a great answer in addition to above... Thank you. I'll run it til she blows, or atleast until I can get an RX8. Just trying to get on the track this weekend, I'm already into Tekin's stuff, just need the funds to get some more!
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Old 11-05-2012 | 05:48 PM
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Honestly that is the exact same experience I had with them as we'll. but in te end it just didn't do the job as well as I liked. Now that I'm running the tekin. I can truly say that it is inferior. Yes it can do the job tho..

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Old 11-05-2012 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore
Sc.
Honestly that is the exact same experience I had with them as we'll. but in te end it just didn't do the job as well as I liked. Now that I'm running the tekin. I can truly say that it is inferior. Yes it can do the job tho..

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Old 11-05-2012 | 06:30 PM
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Old 11-05-2012 | 07:02 PM
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I went from a MMP to an RX8 and it felt like I put a turbo in. Big difference, and I'm not even talking about the ESC issues the castle had. It just seemed to flow a lot more juice.
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