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Mizchief 03-16-2012 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by hotrod1933 (Post 10473852)
Why not run castle system with savox servo.
I already a Savox 1257 (from memory can't see buried in truck) and was looking another motor. Currently have hobbywing 10 turn and was thinking of geting a system with a bit more power.
do they play up without BEC or ?? or do i get castle or similiar motor and keep hobbywing 70a esc.

As long as you have a 5A BEC you should be fine. I think the MMP is 3A

alex4r 03-16-2012 05:13 AM

My Sidewinder has no problem with Savox servos, but my MMP needed a BEC. My girlfriend is using the Sidewinder/3800 combo in a Hyper with a Spektrum 6040, and not a single hiccup.

JEFFs SC10 03-16-2012 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by apriliamille (Post 10473241)
hey all. ive been on order for the f.t. since back in january and even though it seams to have been delayed a week or two i need to start thinking on it.
ive seen where there has been talk about the weight bias/balance (not sure the word for front to rear) and the nose up in jumps deal due to the location of the motor. ive seen the counter to some of that is some have used a 540 motor (and successfully) or the tekin 4 pole motor.

but then it dawned on me. has anyone seen this ft in person at any races yet (im not lucky enough to be regionally positioned to see one of these new ones yet) is the saddle pack that a.e. done moved the batts forward enough to counter the weight of a 550 motor? or should i keep on the plan for a 540 motor for weight. its an indoor track maybe 60-70 foot strait.

Steve Hartson an AE driver ran one and it was friggin dialed,. He ran on an indoor track. Go with a tekin pro 4, its beastly yet still light.

Eaglesrx 03-16-2012 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10474735)
Steve Hartson an AE driver ran one and it was friggin dialed,. He ran on an indoor track. Go with a tekin pro 4, its beastly yet still light.

sorry, but do you mean he ran a 550 and it was dialed or he ran a tekin pro 4 and it was dialed? I'm in the same boat. Trying to plan out my setup ahead of time.

What are your thoughts on running a 550 with an exotek chassis? would that balance out the jumping more?

thanks,

JEFFs SC10 03-16-2012 06:45 AM

550 are way too heavy. This truck is light it doesnt. Need that much torque.

Nobody here is running a 550 with a exotek. Tekin Pro4 all the way. Revtech came out with a sensored 540 can too which might be even better.

Go with the ft kit, vet started, run that setup and see if it works for add the chassis if you have to.
Gotta start somewhere. Even a simple mmp and cc3800 is eplenty.

I have a brand new mmp if anyone wants it. Pm me

Cain 03-16-2012 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by bajabro (Post 10472891)
ok here is my setup.....
front
30000 front diff
white sway bar
25 wt rc shox 1.2
yellow front springs
-2 camber
ball stud inside on tower
24mm ride height
upper shock #2 hole
lower shock mounted outside on arm
clicker locked

Rear
7000 diff
orange sway bar
rc shox 1.2 22.5 wt
yellow rear springs
-2 camber
ball stud inside hole on tower w/ 2 flat washers under
inside hole on caster block
24mm ride height
shock mount #2 on top outside on arm


running barcodes..... work perfect on my 2wd

any ideas?

Based on what the tuning tips say, do you recall why you went away from the middle location on the rear hub carrier as well as the inner hole location on the rear arm?

Those two I usually play with when I have issues with rear grip, pretty much start with the lower a-arm hole by moving the shock inward when I start when I don't have time to adjust more conventional settings, at least, that what I did on all my other vehicles. My SC104x4 is using the inner rear hole so I can't comment on the outer right now.



Originally Posted by Vegatron75 (Post 10473922)
The worst combo is the castle esc/ savox servo/ and spektrum rx.

If this is you.

Best case, use the $5 cap.

Worst case, use the $20 bec.

Let's not over complicate this. I'm hoping we can help Vito get a move on, with his project....

My MMP at the time did not like the setup even with the cap, BEC probably would be the easiest to do right away. Part of the reason I went with a Speed Passion GT2.0 Pro, no cap, etc needed and its a decent sized ESC that fits under the tunnel with room to spare.

JEFFs SC10 03-16-2012 07:10 AM

I thought white springs were stiffer, now that I know they arent Im ordering a pair. Thanks Cameron Kellogg Ive seen the light. :eek:

apriliamille 03-16-2012 07:22 AM

thanks Jeff. i havent tried tekin yet so i might as well give them a whirl. will just have to wait another payday since none of my esc's that i have will power the 4 pole. (i think one of them will but id rather have a sure hit then a lets tinker and see if it will run) ill more then likely try and mimic matisworks' set up. he has helped me with my shock tuning so ill start with that as a base. ill report back as it gets closer and what i end up with

Eaglesrx 03-16-2012 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 10474825)
550 are way too heavy. This truck is light it doesnt. Need that much torque.

Nobody here is running a 550 with a exotek. Tekin Pro4 all the way. Revtech came out with a sensored 540 can too which might be even better.

Go with the ft kit, vet started, run that setup and see if it works for add the chassis if you have to.
Gotta start somewhere. Even a simple mmp and cc3800 is eplenty.

I have a brand new mmp if anyone wants it. Pm me

thanks for the info. I'll have to experiment with the tekin pro4 since it's lighter. I wonder how the pro guys balance out their car. Flurer, maifield, and cavalieri used 550 cans in their setups, including the reedy truck champs, which they were jumping fantastic: http://www.teamassociated.com/setupsheets/SC10_4x4/

However, I do like that tekin pro4 though.

JEFFs SC10 03-16-2012 08:08 AM

Yea the Tekin wasnt out yet.
Some still run 550's, its really preference.

They balance them out with simple lead weights.

vito 03-16-2012 08:14 AM

[QUOTE=Vegatron75;10473761]I would seriously think about the Sidewinder SCT 3800 system. It will fit your needs well and it's very affordable. Castle has decent customer service if you have a problem.

You should only have to solder the battery connector on.

$135 to the door, w/ the $5 off coupon and a free t-shirt.... Sounds like a winner.....

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...le-1410-3800kV[/
thanks i have a mmp esc and 5700 motor in a 22 its to much. ilke to try a new set up like novak new sc 10 4x4 kit. the mmp dose not pay well for me with my set up . i have a dxsc radio rx sr 300 ari sevo dont know the number of it and a eco 30 c lipo pack 2 s

ilanstylz 03-16-2012 08:31 AM

Anyone seen on hear anything about these motors:

https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...=ns&pn=REV1311

They have a 3800kv one as well.........

sugs 03-16-2012 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10474052)
I have 100K but never used it (I use it for king pin lube sometimes on my oval car) and I've ran 60K. I quit because users reported breaking either outdrives or CVA's, so I went to 30K. I think I'm the only one left who's running it that heavy.

Nope, I'm still running it that heavy as well. Doesn't mean its right, but still am.

SCTDan 03-16-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10471395)
How did you keep the housing from turning when you clearanced it with the endmill bit?

I used a piece of 3/4" board that i cut a hole in with a hole saw. Cut it in half across the hole an use that to pinch the assembled diff (case only) in a sliding vise. Center it under the bit and SLOWLY remove material. Too fast and you heat the bronze and will push the bushing out of the case or melt the plastic. Once set up you can turn them out quick. If I had a mini lathe it would be easier.

rickybobbyxxx 03-16-2012 08:56 AM

Yea those revtecks are pretty badass, but i went with the sensored tenshock 4600kv and its a beast!!!! The pro 4 tekins cant hang with it at all


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