TLR 22 Racing Buggy Thread
The better question is, why would you put a graphite chassis on a car that was designed around an aluminum one?
We did this back in the RC10 (B1) days, the car always ran better with the aluminum tub.
That said, $240 is crazy high. So is $125 for a flat sheet.
We did this back in the RC10 (B1) days, the car always ran better with the aluminum tub.
That said, $240 is crazy high. So is $125 for a flat sheet.
Trying to get the shock set up right for my track. The stock set up was WAY too stiff with 27wt oil front and rear with yellow springs in the back and red up front, with 55 pistons. I was running middle outside in the front, and middle inside in the rear. The only thing that was not stock was the bladders were cut out.
I will now run 56 pistons with 22.5wt in the rear with yellow or white springs, and 25wt or 27.5wt with red springs in the front. Bladders cut.
I run at SRS which is a medium bite dirt track, watered for club racing.
Am I going in the right direction?
I asked my local pros for their set ups. One was running 22.5 in the rear and 27.5 in the front, but I can't recall the springs he used.
The other pro was using some custom cut, progressive rate, double secret spring and piston set up that I was not even going to attempt to replicate.
I will now run 56 pistons with 22.5wt in the rear with yellow or white springs, and 25wt or 27.5wt with red springs in the front. Bladders cut.
I run at SRS which is a medium bite dirt track, watered for club racing.
Am I going in the right direction?
I asked my local pros for their set ups. One was running 22.5 in the rear and 27.5 in the front, but I can't recall the springs he used.
The other pro was using some custom cut, progressive rate, double secret spring and piston set up that I was not even going to attempt to replicate.
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Trying to get the shock set up right for my track. The stock set up was WAY too stiff with 27wt oil front and rear with yellow springs in the back and red up front, with 55 pistons. I was running middle outside in the front, and middle inside in the rear. The only thing that was not stock was the bladders were cut out.
I will now run 56 pistons with 22.5wt in the rear with yellow or white springs, and 25wt or 27.5wt with red springs in the front. Bladders cut.
I run at SRS which is a medium bite dirt track, watered for club racing.
Am I going in the right direction?
I asked my local pros for their set ups. One was running 22.5 in the rear and 27.5 in the front, but I can't recall the springs he used.
The other pro was using some custom cut, progressive rate, double secret spring and piston set up that I was not even going to attempt to replicate.
I will now run 56 pistons with 22.5wt in the rear with yellow or white springs, and 25wt or 27.5wt with red springs in the front. Bladders cut.
I run at SRS which is a medium bite dirt track, watered for club racing.
Am I going in the right direction?
I asked my local pros for their set ups. One was running 22.5 in the rear and 27.5 in the front, but I can't recall the springs he used.
The other pro was using some custom cut, progressive rate, double secret spring and piston set up that I was not even going to attempt to replicate.
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Trying to get the shock set up right for my track. The stock set up was WAY too stiff with 27wt oil front and rear with yellow springs in the back and red up front, with 55 pistons. I was running middle outside in the front, and middle inside in the rear. The only thing that was not stock was the bladders were cut out.
I will now run 56 pistons with 22.5wt in the rear with yellow or white springs, and 25wt or 27.5wt with red springs in the front. Bladders cut.
I run at SRS which is a medium bite dirt track, watered for club racing.
Am I going in the right direction?
I asked my local pros for their set ups. One was running 22.5 in the rear and 27.5 in the front, but I can't recall the springs he used.
The other pro was using some custom cut, progressive rate, double secret spring and piston set up that I was not even going to attempt to replicate.
I will now run 56 pistons with 22.5wt in the rear with yellow or white springs, and 25wt or 27.5wt with red springs in the front. Bladders cut.
I run at SRS which is a medium bite dirt track, watered for club racing.
Am I going in the right direction?
I asked my local pros for their set ups. One was running 22.5 in the rear and 27.5 in the front, but I can't recall the springs he used.
The other pro was using some custom cut, progressive rate, double secret spring and piston set up that I was not even going to attempt to replicate.
Last edited by losi_racer; 01-03-2012 at 05:04 PM.
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This may be a weird/dumb question to ask, though I'm beginning to work on my 22 for the first time.
First thing is I want to try a different rear toe setup. What is the best/easiest way to getting to the rear toe block to change it out? What needs or should be taken off to get to it fastest? Thanks.
First thing is I want to try a different rear toe setup. What is the best/easiest way to getting to the rear toe block to change it out? What needs or should be taken off to get to it fastest? Thanks.
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Thanks for helping.
This may be a weird/dumb question to ask, though I'm beginning to work on my 22 for the first time.
First thing is I want to try a different rear toe setup. What is the best/easiest way to getting to the rear toe block to change it out? What needs or should be taken off to get to it fastest? Thanks.
First thing is I want to try a different rear toe setup. What is the best/easiest way to getting to the rear toe block to change it out? What needs or should be taken off to get to it fastest? Thanks.
2 screws from bottom of chassis
2 screws from top/front of tranny case
2 screws from the wing mount to tower
1 .050" screw from toe block
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Whats a good start for gearing with an 8.5?
Im running at wcrc if that helps. Thanks
Im running at wcrc if that helps. Thanks
Last edited by chaseman1; 01-04-2012 at 09:03 AM.
Are the front spindle bearings metric on the 22?
What about the rear hub bearings, metric as well?
Thanks, Krom.
What about the rear hub bearings, metric as well?
Thanks, Krom.
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I have been battling the same issue for awhile now. My car would have pretty good steering and the back end would not have any grip at all. The best advice I could give you is to tighten up your diff a lot more to get the rear end to be more stable, change the rear toe block to 3 degree and to get white springs for the rear. The setup I have been running for awhile now is Frank Roots. It is pretty good. Give it a shot and let us know how it goes. Also, check your slipper pads to see if they are glazed. If they are, sand them down with 600 grit.
The added weight of the brass kick shim should help get some steering back into this thing but as it sits now, it's a little lazy feeling. Confidence inspiring but I have to change my lines up in order to get back on the power sooner. Any tips to get some more mid corner and on-power exit steering?
Thanks!
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I'm having exactly the opposite problem. I'm running Root's setup (save for the brass kick shim, which should be here tonight!) on my Mod 22 and a slight variation on my stock car. The rear the mod car is TOO locked down and I get wicked on-power understeer. It's extremely stable and easy to drive, but on our local very tight, small indoor track it seems to lack steering. Stock is very similar, save for a 3.0* HRC toe block. Really seems to let the car rotate around corners better.
The added weight of the brass kick shim should help get some steering back into this thing but as it sits now, it's a little lazy feeling. Confidence inspiring but I have to change my lines up in order to get back on the power sooner. Any tips to get some more mid corner and on-power exit steering?
Thanks!
The added weight of the brass kick shim should help get some steering back into this thing but as it sits now, it's a little lazy feeling. Confidence inspiring but I have to change my lines up in order to get back on the power sooner. Any tips to get some more mid corner and on-power exit steering?
Thanks!
Stiffer rear spring
Add more travel limiters to front shocks
Add more anti squat
Add washers to inside front ball stud
Add washers to outside rear ball stud
Add some toe-out to front
Edit: try different front or rear tire that will increase front bite and reduce rear bite
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I'm having exactly the opposite problem. I'm running Root's setup (save for the brass kick shim, which should be here tonight!) on my Mod 22 and a slight variation on my stock car. The rear the mod car is TOO locked down and I get wicked on-power understeer. It's extremely stable and easy to drive, but on our local very tight, small indoor track it seems to lack steering. Stock is very similar, save for a 3.0* HRC toe block. Really seems to let the car rotate around corners better.
The added weight of the brass kick shim should help get some steering back into this thing but as it sits now, it's a little lazy feeling. Confidence inspiring but I have to change my lines up in order to get back on the power sooner. Any tips to get some more mid corner and on-power exit steering?
Thanks!
The added weight of the brass kick shim should help get some steering back into this thing but as it sits now, it's a little lazy feeling. Confidence inspiring but I have to change my lines up in order to get back on the power sooner. Any tips to get some more mid corner and on-power exit steering?
Thanks!