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Old 11-09-2011, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisWolfson
I'm in the same boat. First run of kits - original diff nut - diff built fine and is still smooth.
Same here. First shipment car with maybe 150 packs through it. I built a completely new diff because the outdrives were showing a lot of wear. I was very surprised when I opened the original diff up. It looked great except for the worn outdrives. I do, however run my first 5 or so packs with a extra loose slipper. New diff was built with only the parts that came in the TLR diff rebuild kit. It also feels great after 20 or so packs.
I still think that a loose slipper, at least for a while, is key to a good, long lasting diff.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:36 PM
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Speaking of pledge, is it just used in the tranny or is it also used for the arms and other composite parts to keep the black, shiny, and dirt from sticking?? I see a can of pledge on almost every pros pit table and was just wondering.
I use pledge on everything. Just take a small paint brush and use a little pledge to brush the car down. It cleans the dust/dirt off well and helps keep new dirt from sticking next time out. Been using pledge for this purpose for years on both 1/8 and 1/10 scale cars. Just thought I would share. Also works very well on bodies.

As for the diff, I'm a complete noob when it comes to ball diffs and I built mine with all stock parts. So far so good, but I've only run the car a couple times yet. Time will tell, but so far I don't see any issues. One thing I did do was put a drop of CA glue on the nut before pressing it into the holder.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:36 PM
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my new diff lasted for five feet. it was not the diff it was my set up it was loose from me.
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Old 11-09-2011, 10:12 PM
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I've heard of guys sanding the diff rights to make sure they are flat, what grit sand paper are you using if you're doing this?
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AssocRacer
I've heard of guys sanding the diff rights to make sure they are flat, what grit sand paper are you using if you're doing this?
you never get the rings as flat as b fast does and for the time it would take spend the 20 bucks
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:18 AM
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Hi guys,

iīve just finished my 22 and have a question about the diff. Because its my first ball diff and i donīt know how to handle it right.

When i turn one wheel slowly i can feel very little bumps in my diff. The diff isnīt broke in. Are these bumps normal and go away when in brake in my diff?

Regards Chris
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AssocRacer
I've heard of guys sanding the diff rights to make sure they are flat, what grit sand paper are you using if you're doing this?
400 then 600. Usually takes just a couple minutes with medium pressure. I use a little shock oil on the sand paper as well. More of a wet sanding that way.
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Old 11-10-2011, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by AssocRacer
I've heard of guys sanding the diff rights to make sure they are flat, what grit sand paper are you using if you're doing this?
As I was typing this I saw MJK's post and was going to tell you the exact same thing
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris87
Hi guys,

iīve just finished my 22 and have a question about the diff. Because its my first ball diff and i donīt know how to handle it right.

When i turn one wheel slowly i can feel very little bumps in my diff. The diff isnīt broke in. Are these bumps normal and go away when in brake in my diff?

Regards Chris
Did u tighten it till it was snug or really crank it down?
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:09 AM
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Iīve tighten it until i canīt turn the outdrivers with my hand. It is definately not too tight. May be itīs because i havenīt sanded the diff rings?
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Originally Posted by Chris87
Iīve tighten it until i canīt turn the outdrivers with my hand. It is definately not too tight. May be itīs because i havenīt sanded the diff rings?
I was overly cautious breaking in my stock diff due to the accounts of weak diff balls. I just barely tightened it, then broke the diff in by running at low speed on the bench with one wheel held for 1minute, switched wheels, 1 minute, and repeated this 3 times. Tightened the diff a tad (1/16-1/8 of a turn) and repeated the process until I had the diff response that I wanted. It took about 5 repetitions to get there and some time, but the stock diff lasted me 7 race nights before I decided to replace it and then I purchased B-fast diff parts for the rebuild.

If you tighten it all the way down without a break in process, you can flat spot your diff balls and ruin them before you get to run.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AssocRacer
I've heard of guys sanding the diff rights to make sure they are flat, what grit sand paper are you using if you're doing this?
You don't need to sand the rings when they are new. In fact, the rings that come with the 22 are some of the best I've seen come in a kit. They come perfectly cross hatched already. Just need to be sure to use carbide balls and version two diff screw and nut (or Asscociated screw/nut) and your all set.

My diff stays tight and is smooth as silk, no need for any "b fast" crap
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Originally Posted by Sean B.
You don't need to sand the rings when they are new. In fact, the rings that come with the 22 are some of the best I've seen come in a kit. They come perfectly cross hatched already. Just need to be sure to use carbide balls and version two diff screw and nut (or Asscociated screw/nut) and your all set.

My diff stays tight and is smooth as silk, no need for any "b fast" crap
Do you have the part number for the version 2 diff nut and screw, or was it a running change with the same part number?
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris87
Hi guys,

iīve just finished my 22 and have a question about the diff. Because its my first ball diff and i donīt know how to handle it right.

When i turn one wheel slowly i can feel very little bumps in my diff. The diff isnīt broke in. Are these bumps normal and go away when in brake in my diff?

Regards Chris
Take this with a grain of salt because I havent had the best of luck building the 22 diff yet but when I assemble the diff halfs, I snug it about 1/16 of a turn as soon as I get tension on the balls. Between each snug down of the diff screw, I rotate the diff several times to avoid flat spotting the balls. When I've achieved the tension that I want. For break in, I hold one tire off the ground and let it spin for a while (I've never counted but I'm guessing 20-30 seconds). I repeat this for the opposite side and toss it on the track. The latest build (number 5 I think) with ceramic balls is doing pretty well but still isnt as smooth as I'd expect after so little use (or compared to other cars I've had over the years).
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Casper
It was my understanding the nuts would be a running change. Maybe old stock was still around Not sure when the diff nut was cut in for the kits or maybe it is just available as an option part.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=TLR2946
I thought they were replacing them in the kits though. Being just a team driver I may have been mistaken on my info. Hopefully Frank can help clear that up.
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Do you have the part number for the version 2 diff nut and screw, or was it a running change with the same part number?
I have a link to the Gen 11 diff nut in the post above. Not sure if they made it a running change with the screw but the stock screw fits the new nut.
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