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MrUnlimited 11-22-2010 07:24 AM

I do hope so otherwise we can replace them with alloy ones offered on Ebay.:D

UltegraSTI 11-22-2010 08:05 AM

guess i need to phone the man who got me into RC who has 1 of these new shrinked in a box never seen daylight to ebay it to a collector for xmas before the value goes dooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn .................................................. ..

R

MrUnlimited 11-22-2010 07:02 PM

The 2011 version will have improved parts so why spend money on the old version, unless you are a collector!

bzb 11-23-2010 02:38 AM

i'll get one (please make an egress also!)

MrUnlimited 11-23-2010 03:59 AM

11 february and counting down:D

MrUnlimited 11-24-2010 06:14 AM

For those who hasn't seen it:

+ YouTube Video
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94eg! 11-27-2010 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by MrUnlimited (Post 8243296)
I also see a much wider bumper than the original but what about the weakest part: the front c-parts? Metal of plactic?

That is just a redesigned add-on practice bumper. The regular bumper is still seen in the middle of it. And you can bet the fragile C and A parts are still going to be plastic. The good news is spares will be available again...

nsr250repsol 11-27-2010 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by 94eg! (Post 8265473)
That is just a redesigned add-on practice bumper. The regular bumper is still seen in the middle of it. And you can bet the fragile C and A parts are still going to be plastic. The good news is spares will be available again...

My guess is that the C parts will be the same but made of better plastics. Things have come a looooooong way since '88.

MrUnlimited 11-27-2010 11:35 AM

Yeah I think so. Also the plastic gears will be much stronger with modern brushless motors. The driveshafts can be rebuild.

Key 11-30-2010 03:08 PM

Given the improvements they've made with the new generation of material and strengthening key weak areas would it be safe to say that it would be ready for a brushless setup? I'm sure the real test is when it's out but trying to get a feel.

-key

94eg! 11-30-2010 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by Key (Post 8279884)
Given the improvements they've made with the new generation of material and strengthening key weak areas would it be safe to say that it would be ready for a brushless setup? I'm sure the real test is when it's out but trying to get a feel.

-key

I think the key to brushless is a slipper clutch. The Avante has a center ball diff instead of a slipper. If that could somehow be converted to a slipper, then I think brushless would be no problem. While the Avante drivetrain isn't exactly effecient, I do think it's quite strong. In the 20 years of running my Vanquish, I never had trouble with the gearboxes. Of course I'm only using a 23T super stock, but it is upgraded with front and rear ball diffs as well.

MrUnlimited 11-30-2010 11:10 PM

The df-03 series als have no slipperclutch out of the box. Many owners use a brushless setup without any problem. Also most brushless esc are programmeble and many high end radio's have traction control in their software.

nsr250repsol 12-01-2010 09:59 AM

The biggest brushless motor I would/will run in the new Avante would/will be a 13.5. The center diff should help save your grears but a 5.5 in the Avante would just be silly stupid IMO.

José Cordeiro 12-01-2010 11:06 AM

Couldn't agree more nsr250repsol.

I'm currently disassembling an Egress, mine but built by a friend some 10 years ago. It has never been run, so it's new and I'm having a blast rebuilding it with the knowledge I gathered throughout all my years of racing. The kit is amazing but obviously fragile in some areas for todays standards, but quite reasonably strong for the motors used at the time of its release. The ball diffs are quite intricate but geneously conceived.

The shell, wing and undertray have never been painted, nor even cut.

I wonder how much is this kit worth nowadays.

Cheers,

MrUnlimited 12-01-2010 11:19 AM

Jose,

There are Egress sold on Ebay for 500-700 euro build and new in box they are sold for more than 1000 euro! My advice: keep it and wait for the new Avante.
As for the motors: I really don't think they use the same old materials as 25yrs ago so the new Avante will be stronger than its successor.


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