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MattP 11-10-2012 11:20 AM

What size pinion should I start with when running a Tekin Redline 6.5T?

t0p_sh0tta 11-10-2012 07:52 PM

18-20, but you'll likely go up. With the cooler temps, I'm running a 23 with my 7.5.

adamym 11-11-2012 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by t0p_sh0tta (Post 11427264)
18-20, but you'll likely go up. With the cooler temps, I'm running a 23 with my 7.5.

This is just the question that I was about to ask. I'm running a new fantom ion v.4 6.5 turn motor. It's ridiculously fast and my temps seem to be almost out of control. This is my first time really running any mod motor other than for drifting. What are typical temps suppose to be around for a very high grip track. My local track is carpet and I typically run carpet the majority of the time. There is also another carpet track and 2 other dirt tracks. Are my temps high because of the amount of traction? I'm currently running a 17/81 with an avid triad slipper.

Any help is awesome, thanks.

rigor 11-11-2012 07:57 PM

How can we help if you don't provide us what your motor temp is coming off the track at? Your gearing sounds fine for a 6.5... I run 20/81 on my 6.5, and could go more.

adamym 11-11-2012 08:01 PM

Sorry, I'm up around 150 about 4 minutes into (17t pinion). The basic rule of thumb that I was told is if the motor is cool and the speedo is hot then gear up, and vice versa. So I tried all of the combinations all up to a 22 tooth pinion. I'm running a speed passion reventon pro as the speedo.

rigor 11-11-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by adamym (Post 11430643)
Sorry, I'm up around 150 about 4 minutes into (17t pinion). The basic rule of thumb that I was told is if the motor is cool and the speedo is hot then gear up, and vice versa. So I tried all of the combinations all up to a 22 tooth pinion. I'm running a speed passion reventon pro as the speedo.

Ok your motor temp sounds fine. My next advice would be to check your motor temp after 8 or 10 minutes. Then again about 12-15 minutes. If you're staying under 160 all the time you should be good.

You also want to gear for what will put down your best lap times on the track, and obviously not having thermal issues. More speed isn't always necessary.

Bike racer 11-11-2012 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by adamym (Post 11430643)
Sorry, I'm up around 150 about 4 minutes into (17t pinion). The basic rule of thumb that I was told is if the motor is cool and the speedo is hot then gear up, and vice versa. So I tried all of the combinations all up to a 22 tooth pinion. I'm running a speed passion reventon pro as the speedo.

Tell us more about the motor you are running, what brand, where is teh timing set on the motor, how old is the motor......


We have been running Thunder Power motors and we can run a 5200 mah pack down to cut off and the motor will come off about 160*.

t0p_sh0tta 11-11-2012 08:42 PM

You guys should be running the 84t spurs with a 6.5 motor. For temps, the rule of thumb is to keep them equal to, or below 160 at the conclusion of your main. My mains are 8 min, so I gear for such. I don't see 160 until the 10 min mark.

Also, check temps at race pace, not just bashing around the track.

MattP 11-14-2012 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by MattP (Post 11426018)
What mm nut driver do I need for the upper shock mount nuts?

Also what size are the wheel nuts? I need to buy nut drivers to fit these and don't know the size.

Anyone???

racer1812 11-14-2012 11:36 PM

shock mounts, not sure. Wheel nuts are 11/32

rigor 11-15-2012 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by MattP (Post 11442764)
Anyone???

Link will help you.... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=team+associated+b44.1+manual

Seriously though 8-32 wheel nuts and 4-40 shock nuts.

MattP 11-15-2012 05:46 AM

Thanks guys.

Allen720 11-18-2012 09:19 AM

does anyone know what kyosho springs i should run on my b44. using kyosho velvet springs.

Peter10654 11-19-2012 02:16 AM

Hey guys... I'm thinking about to buy a B44.1 Factory Team because the prices are down after the B44.2 was announced.

I have always driven 1:8 and there was no ball diffs and so I'm a little bit scared about the ball diffs in the B44.1. Can anybody tell me how are the durability of the ball diffs in the B44.1 ?

If I need all few weeks replace or adjust it, I'll buy a more expensive DEX, but I hope I can go with the B44.1. I'm just a hobby-driver and 99% on carpet tracks. A lot of grip on carpet maybe also a problem for the ball diffs.

Thanks for the help

Peter

Wease 11-19-2012 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by Peter10654 (Post 11457354)
Hey guys... I'm thinking about to buy a B44.1 Factory Team because the prices are down after the B44.2 was announced.

I have always driven 1:8 and there was no ball diffs and so I'm a little bit scared about the ball diffs in the B44.1. Can anybody tell me how are the durability of the ball diffs in the B44.1 ?

If I need all few weeks replace or adjust it, I'll buy a more expensive DEX, but I hope I can go with the B44.1. I'm just a hobby-driver and 99% on carpet tracks. A lot of grip on carpet maybe also a problem for the ball diffs.

Thanks for the help

Peter

The balls diffs themselves are not an issue on the B44/B44.1. The plastic gears tend to be the weak link if the diffs are not shimmed properly. When the diffs are shimmed properly, everything holds up quite well. Follow the manual precisely with the shimming recommendations and keep your slipper adjusted properly and you'll have no problems. However, as soon as the diffs develop to much side to side play in the transmission cases, those plastic gears will shred themselves in short order. After the first several races the diffs can develop some side to side play in the transmission cases and thus you have to get in there an add a shim or two when necessary. After the 2nd shimming the buggy should be good to go for quite a while. A super tight slipper can also shred a rear diff. I like the gear diffs personally because they can be adjusted in just a few minutes on the car as opposed to disassembling and changing fluids with gear diffs.


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