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Lansonfloyd 11-13-2011 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE (Post 9905258)
this is what happens when the computer crashes before the mains,you put all the truck on the track at once
+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

Thank God for 2.4GHz!

Murray100 11-14-2011 07:44 AM

Reedy ESC capacitor Question
 
Removed what appears to be a capacitor from my Reedy ESC. It is the component that is between the esc and the battery plug. Power was cutting out before removal and now works fine. Question is do I need to replace the component or not. Also, what is the function of the component. After removing, I ran the truck and no apparent glitching. I have also have a glitch buster between the receiver and 6040 spektrum servo. Thanks

CraigMBA 11-14-2011 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9906305)
haha...thats crazy 20Smoke...its like a demolition derby =)

I took 3rd in the stock 17.5 A-main today with my sc10. In fact, the first 4 were all SC10s. Setup very similar (minus pinion, tires). I had the 3 fastest lap times too. Broke a caster block on the last double and limped past the finish line in 3rd. Ill get them next week.

Think my setup is almost dialed in....motor temped no higher than 155F, even after 2 heats and some practice, running 26/75 gearing, have my motor timing advanced (end bell, MAXED), also running some dynamic timing (another 20 degrees @ 6k rpm).

Still having some rear traction issues though, didnt mess too much with my suspension, but it seems my rear likes to slide out alot on braking turns. What you guys think? I played with slipper a bit to to help control my take offs in the straights.

Add reare toe at the hub carrier. 1/2 to 1 degree.

Asharus 11-14-2011 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by njnewc (Post 9900022)
What batteries are you guys using. I run a FT SC10 (17.5). I currently run 5000 25C Turnigy batteries. I want to upgrade, but I really don't want to break the bank. What do you suggest... Thanks

I use Xcelorin 60C 6000mah batts, mainly because my 4wd SC (SCTE) needs the high C and mah rating so I use those batts in all my vehicles. I'm considering the Revtech 65C 6500mah as my next batt though, they're slightly cheaper.


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 9904292)
I run a Savox 1258TG. 166 oz tq @ .08 speed @6v. I love it
works perfectly for me

+1, perfect for SC trucks, best bang for buck, but be careful, you may need a cap on your receiver to stop glitching/cogging. I run a spektrum cap in 2 out of my 4 Tekin RS setups, no cap needed on my RX8.


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9906305)
haha...thats crazy 20Smoke...its like a demolition derby =)

I took 3rd in the stock 17.5 A-main today with my sc10. In fact, the first 4 were all SC10s. Setup very similar (minus pinion, tires). I had the 3 fastest lap times too. Broke a caster block on the last double and limped past the finish line in 3rd. Ill get them next week.

Think my setup is almost dialed in....motor temped no higher than 155F, even after 2 heats and some practice, running 26/75 gearing, have my motor timing advanced (end bell, MAXED), also running some dynamic timing (another 20 degrees @ 6k rpm).

Still having some rear traction issues though, didnt mess too much with my suspension, but it seems my rear likes to slide out alot on braking turns. What you guys think? I played with slipper a bit to to help control my take offs in the straights.

At least you finished your main. We had an 8 min A main in Pro2 Mod for a trophy race I attended this weekend. I was battling for 1st in the first 5 mins, and even took first place, but shortly after, a drive rollpin broke and I lost power to the left wheel. I couldn't even limp for the finish since there was at least 2 mins left. I was extremely upset, I even have the 12mm JC hex conversion. The last time I broke a rollpin was when I was still running the stock wheels.

Regarding your rear traction issues, what springs are you running in the rear, and what toe block are you running?

Sprinkler 11-14-2011 08:33 AM

I have recently moved to using the 12mm hexes. I have the JConcepts aluminum hexes in the rear. What is everyone using for the front....the stock plastic RS hexes?

BTW....I have a huge pile of JConcepts White Rulex wheels with like new JConcepts Green DD's, Subcultures, Goosebumps and Bar Codes if anyone is interested. I will let them go cheap. They are for the stock setup which is bearings in the front and pin in the rear.

Thanks

Asharus 11-14-2011 08:36 AM

I still haven't been able to convert my fronts to hexes. I have way too many tires that have the stock bearing-in-wheel setup and will lose a ton of tires if I convert.

HighLife420 11-14-2011 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 9908118)
Add reare toe at the hub carrier. 1/2 to 1 degree.

Was thinking of that, will give that a try for sure.


Originally Posted by Asharus (Post 9908165)
I use Xcelorin 60C 6000mah batts, mainly because my 4wd SC (SCTE) needs the high C and mah rating so I use those batts in all my vehicles. I'm considering the Revtech 65C 6500mah as my next batt though, they're slightly cheaper.



+1, perfect for SC trucks, best bang for buck, but be careful, you may need a cap on your receiver to stop glitching/cogging. I run a spektrum cap in 2 out of my 4 Tekin RS setups, no cap needed on my RX8.



At least you finished your main. We had an 8 min A main in Pro2 Mod for a trophy race I attended this weekend. I was battling for 1st in the first 5 mins, and even took first place, but shortly after, a drive rollpin broke and I lost power to the left wheel. I couldn't even limp for the finish since there was at least 2 mins left. I was extremely upset, I even have the 12mm JC hex conversion. The last time I broke a rollpin was when I was still running the stock wheels.

Regarding your rear traction issues, what springs are you running in the rear, and what toe block are you running?

I just bought that exact servo from hobby super store (local to me) for $60. I bought the cap just in case. I havent tried it without the cap, but its one fast servo. A tad loud though.

Im running the stock hub carriers, which are 0 i belive. Running the same setup as JR mitch (found here) This is the track i run at, same conditions.

20 SMOKE 11-14-2011 09:13 AM

bake them off

gamedog1966 11-14-2011 09:56 AM

parts needed
 
hey there u guys and gals out there, i traded a rustler for a sc10 rtr but i want to kno what parts do i need in order to make it a ft truck and make it handle as well also?

brent701 11-14-2011 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Sprinkler (Post 9908259)
I have recently moved to using the 12mm hexes. I have the JConcepts aluminum hexes in the rear. What is everyone using for the front....the stock plastic RS hexes?
Thanks

I use the same rear hex and stock RD front hex.

brent701 11-14-2011 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Asharus (Post 9908165)
+1, perfect for SC trucks, best bang for buck, but be careful, you may need a cap on your receiver to stop glitching/cogging. I run a spektrum cap in 2 out of my 4 Tekin RS setups, no cap needed on my RX8.



Yes, they are power hungry that is for sure.
Using a MMP need a BEC or glitch buster
Novak pro I do not need a BEC or glitch buster.
Stock RS ESC need a glitch Buster

ShortCourseOnly 11-14-2011 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Murray100 (Post 9908051)
Removed what appears to be a capacitor from my Reedy ESC. It is the component that is between the esc and the battery plug. Power was cutting out before removal and now works fine. Question is do I need to replace the component or not. Also, what is the function of the component. After removing, I ran the truck and no apparent glitching. I have also have a glitch buster between the receiver and 6040 spektrum servo. Thanks

The power capacitor on the ESC is to filter the current through the ESC. I have fried an ESC cause the capacitor broke due to high current spikes going through the ESC. If you have a super high discharge battery it can supply whatever current your ESC delivers to the motor. Often times when you are running hard and hit the brakes you will spike the current feedback through the ESC and without the capacitor you will over current the FETs. So make sure you replace the capacitor.

What is the specs on your battery?

Asharus 11-14-2011 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9908457)
Was thinking of that, will give that a try for sure.



I just bought that exact servo from hobby super store (local to me) for $60. I bought the cap just in case. I havent tried it without the cap, but its one fast servo. A tad loud though.

Im running the stock hub carriers, which are 0 i belive. Running the same setup as JR mitch (found here) This is the track i run at, same conditions.

seeing that you're already running 3 deg of rear toe, you can try running a softer rear spring (greens) or as per the suggestion above, add .5 to your rear hub carrier via the FT .5 deg aluminum hubs. bear in mind that you will need the larger outer bearing and a new crush tube if you go this route if you're still running the stock plastic hubs.

HighLife420 11-14-2011 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 9908700)
Yes, they are power hungry that is for sure.
Using a MMP need a BEC or glitch buster
Novak pro I do not need a BEC or glitch buster.
Stock RS ESC need a glitch Buster


Originally Posted by ShortCourseOnly (Post 9908808)
The power capacitor on the ESC is to filter the current through the ESC. I have fried an ESC cause the capacitor broke due to high current spikes going through the ESC. If you have a super high discharge battery it can supply whatever current your ESC delivers to the motor. Often times when you are running hard and hit the brakes you will spike the current feedback through the ESC and without the capacitor you will over current the FETs. So make sure you replace the capacitor.

What is the specs on your battery?

+1, for sure replace it...if its one of these.

vw addict 11-14-2011 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by nadan805 (Post 9905047)
I don't run any spacers with my savox.

Thanks man, I have to finish the installation up tonight. What are these glitch busters everyone has talked about? I turned my car on briefly to center the servo before installing the horn and I noticed it was going crazy. Looks like I'ma need to pick one up.

Asharus 11-14-2011 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 9909059)
Thanks man, I have to finish the installation up tonight. What are these glitch busters everyone has talked about? I turned my car on briefly to center the servo before installing the horn and I noticed it was going crazy. Looks like I'ma need to pick one up.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...tage-Protector

It's the cheapest cap out there and it works just fine. I run a few of these in my cars.

HighLife420 11-14-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by Asharus (Post 9909079)
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...tage-Protector

It's the cheapest cap out there and it works just fine. I run a few of these in my cars.


Exact one i have, paid $6 at LHS. No glitchs with my 1258TG.

brent701 11-14-2011 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by HighLife420 (Post 9909131)
Exact one i have, paid $6 at LHS. No glitchs with my 1258TG.

Same here. I bought 3 of them only use 2. for 6 bucks and a back up or to help someone out having the problem. worth it lol

vw addict 11-14-2011 02:22 PM

Thanks guys, hoping the hobby shop has one when I go for practice tomorrow night. Got the servo in a few minutes ago, man is that thing fast!!! There is a setting on my DX3S to slow it down a bit correct?

Pwntology 11-14-2011 02:34 PM

SC10 is making loud grinding noise when I make hard rights.
 
After reinstalling a new ESC and Motor in my SC10, things are running mostly great, I just have one issue where there is a "grinding" (or fast loud clicking) noise coming from somewhere in the Motor/Transmission/rear area, but only when I am making a hard right and the backend is rolling hard to the left. Doing the same turn going the opposite direction does not make the noise.

I set the Gear Mesh (Spur and Pinion) and Slipper Clutch according to the manual. I don't see and visible damage/wear on either gear.

Is this something anyone else has experienced before? Any help with this would be great!

vw addict 11-14-2011 02:45 PM

most likely the gear diff, shim the sun gears in.

jamr1130 11-14-2011 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Pwntology (Post 9909894)
After reinstalling a new ESC and Motor in my SC10, things are running mostly great, I just have one issue where there is a "grinding" (or fast loud clicking) noise coming from somewhere in the Motor/Transmission/rear area, but only when I am making a hard right and the backend is rolling hard to the left. Doing the same turn going the opposite direction does not make the noise.

I set the Gear Mesh (Spur and Pinion) and Slipper Clutch according to the manual. I don't see and visible damage/wear on either gear.

Is this something anyone else has experienced before? Any help with this would be great!



Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 9909939)
most likely the gear diff, shim the sun gears in.

+1 on the shimming the sun gear. I haven't had to do it on SC10 2wd but had major clicking noises in the rear end on my SC10 4x4. Others on the 4x4 thread suggested to use one or two shims. It only needed one on one side and...viola. No more sound.

micsa 11-14-2011 03:32 PM

Wheel wobble on SC10 RS
 
I have just 1,5 months old SC10 RS with the Associated's stock hex wheel adapters and KMC hex wheels. With this setup, there is way too much free play on the back wheels. There is a youtube video with id "oXBA-wR2XbI" which shows what I am talking about (cannot yet post direct link due to being a new user in rctech).

I have rear axles according to manual: after the outer bearing there is one shim before the roll pin and the hex adapter. I have multiple set of KMC wheels but all of them have the same problem.

There was also discussion on another forum that the threads on the axles could be too short to allow the nut to be tighten fully. Due to this, I added additional spacers between the nut and the wheel but this didn't help either.

Is this a common problem or just something with my unit?

zZ Hop 11-14-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 9909939)
most likely the gear diff, shim the sun gears in.

Yeah, I thought they had fixed this issue, but I was out last week with a brand new SC10RS out of the box and had the issue surface after twenty minutes of track time.

Lansonfloyd 11-14-2011 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by micsa (Post 9910159)
I have just 1,5 months old SC10 RS with the Associated's stock hex wheel adapters and KMC hex wheels. With this setup, there is way too much free play on the back wheels. There is a youtube video with id "oXBA-wR2XbI" which shows what I am talking about (cannot yet post direct link due to being a new user in rctech).

I have rear axles according to manual: after the outer bearing there is one shim before the roll pin and the hex adapter. I have multiple set of KMC wheels but all of them have the same problem.

There was also discussion on another forum that the threads on the axles could be too short to allow the nut to be tighten fully. Due to this, I added additional spacers between the nut and the wheel but this didn't help either.

Is this a common problem or just something with my unit?

The shims need to go after the wheel bearing, but before the roll pin. At least two shims (they come w/ the RS hexes) per side is what I needed. The shims ride the bearing too, so you can really snug that wheel down.

It is an issue, one I've had and it ruined a few wheels for me too.

spork01 11-14-2011 04:02 PM

I had a few issues with wheel stripping until i used the old backplate behind the nut to attach the wheel. :)

Pwntology 11-14-2011 05:00 PM

I just popped off the Right Dogbone and found that the O-Ring that goes between the Dogbone and the Gear Diff Outdrive (cup) is missing. It looks like this is allowing the Dogbone to travel to far in toward the diff, which means it's almost falling out on the Axle side. I am hoping the noise is coming from the end of the Dogbone rubbing on the Arm. I will pick up new O-Rings tonight and let you know how it goes.

19_mustang_96 11-14-2011 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Pwntology (Post 9910557)
I just popped off the Right Dogbone and found that the O-Ring that goes between the Dogbone and the Gear Diff Outdrive (cup) is missing. It looks like this is allowing the Dogbone to travel to far in toward the diff, which means it's almost falling out on the Axle side. I am hoping the noise is coming from the end of the Dogbone rubbing on the Arm. I will pick up new O-Rings tonight and let you know how it goes.

If you still have problems pooping out a dogbone, use nitro fuel line. It allows you to take out more of the slop.

idrummerboy13 11-14-2011 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by 19_mustang_96 (Post 9910918)
If you still have problems pooping out a dogbone, use nitro fuel line. It allows you to take out more of the slop.

I just added more o rings :lol:. After i get v2 shocks ill get the cvds.. I like them much better. They add a little side bite also...:tire:

19_mustang_96 11-14-2011 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by idrummerboy13 (Post 9911120)
I just added more o rings :lol:. After i get v2 shocks ill get the cvds.. I like them much better. They add a little side bite also...:tire:

Ya, you can do that too I just had problems with the oring wearing out and losing a dogbone. I think personal that the fuel line is more durable and cheaper.

juzza99 11-14-2011 07:50 PM

Could someone please explain which way to go with the gear diff as far as diff oil goes, i have mass oversteer on entry and mid corner and was hoping to settle it down a little, i have 5k oil in the diff and rear camber links in outside hole on hub.. Shocks are in middle hole on tower ,( thinking of trying inside hole on tower which might help a little:confused:)

Thanks for any help.

Wild Cherry 11-14-2011 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by juzza99 (Post 9911460)
Could someone please explain which way to go with the gear diff as far as diff oil goes, i have mass oversteer on entry and mid corner and was hoping to settle it down a little, i have 5k oil in the diff and rear camber links in outside hole on hub.. Shocks are in middle hole on tower ,( thinking of trying inside hole on tower which might help a little:confused:)

Thanks for any help.

Don't think changing the oil to another weight would help much , I recommend the 5000w oil ...


Check slipper make sure it is adjusted to slip a little ...
Check your shock oil , ride height , radio brake adjustment ....

Pulse_ 11-15-2011 01:37 AM

Which overtray is the most practical for the SC10?

I'm having troubles setting the slipper of my SC10 FT right, even when the screw is tight, it still slips :confused:. The setup of the diff is good so if you have any idea..

HighLife420 11-15-2011 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by Pulse_ (Post 9912463)
Which overtray is the most practical for the SC10?

I'm having troubles setting the slipper of my SC10 FT right, even when the screw is tight, it still slips :confused:. The setup of the diff is good so if you have any idea..

Could be worn pads.

nadan805 11-15-2011 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Pulse_ (Post 9912463)
Which overtray is the most practical for the SC10?

I'm having troubles setting the slipper of my SC10 FT right, even when the screw is tight, it still slips :confused:. The setup of the diff is good so if you have any idea..

My slipper has to be tightened way more than the manual suggests.

Sprinkler 11-15-2011 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Pulse_ (Post 9912463)
Which overtray is the most practical for the SC10?

I'm having troubles setting the slipper of my SC10 FT right, even when the screw is tight, it still slips :confused:. The setup of the diff is good so if you have any idea..

The JConcepts one is awesome.
http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...roducts_id=330

You might need to sand your slipper pads and rotors to get the glaze off of them.

kc_nitro_rc 11-15-2011 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Pulse_ (Post 9912463)
Which overtray is the most practical for the SC10?

I'm having troubles setting the slipper of my SC10 FT right, even when the screw is tight, it still slips :confused:. The setup of the diff is good so if you have any idea..

When it comes to setting the diff & slipper I'm always intimidated. But here is what has worked for me in my short time with my SC10 short course truck.

Read the 'how to build a diff' guide- http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...er-clutch.html

When you have everything installed crank the slipper nut tight. I mean tight! Compress the spring tight.

Now adjust your diff. It should be loose at first. You will hear it. I like to tighten mine about a half turn at a time at first. If you happen to tighten it all the way tight just back it off 1/4 turn. This will get you really close to perfect.

Once you find that sweet spot where it doesn't 'bark' or slip for more than about the first 12 inches of take-off you are there. Most likely your truck will pull a wheelie because the slipper is full tight. If it 'barks' it's to tight. Slipping is to loose.

Now back the slipper nut way off. My nut goes down so far as to show about 1/8" of threads. (Manual says get it just barely past the end. That's to loose.) If you leave the slipper to tight the diff will bark when you hold the rear tires to adjust the slipper.

Go back to the diff guide. You want to hold the rear tires, stab the throttle BRIEFLY. It should pop the front tires about 1-2". No More, No Less!

Patience is the key. You will get there. Take your truck to a track & ask one of the local fast guys for help if you have to.

ShortCourseOnly 11-15-2011 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by juzza99 (Post 9911460)
Could someone please explain which way to go with the gear diff as far as diff oil goes, i have mass oversteer on entry and mid corner and was hoping to settle it down a little, i have 5k oil in the diff and rear camber links in outside hole on hub.. Shocks are in middle hole on tower ,( thinking of trying inside hole on tower which might help a little:confused:)

Thanks for any help.

I saw great improvements when I drilled a 4th hole lower than the inside hole on the tower.

Also, how much weight did you add and where. I have about 3 oz. in the rear of the battery tray and 1 oz up front near the servo.

Good luck.

Pulse_ 11-15-2011 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by kc_nitro_rc (Post 9913066)
When it comes to setting the diff & slipper I'm always intimidated. But here is what has worked for me in my short time with my SC10 short course truck.

Read the 'how to build a diff' guide- http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...er-clutch.html

When you have everything installed crank the slipper nut tight. I mean tight! Compress the spring tight.

Now adjust your diff. It should be loose at first. You will hear it. I like to tighten mine about a half turn at a time at first. If you happen to tighten it all the way tight just back it off 1/4 turn. This will get you really close to perfect.

Once you find that sweet spot where it doesn't 'bark' or slip for more than about the first 12 inches of take-off you are there. Most likely your truck will pull a wheelie because the slipper is full tight. If it 'barks' it's to tight. Slipping is to loose.

Now back the slipper nut way off. My nut goes down so far as to show about 1/8" of threads. (Manual says get it just barely past the end. That's to loose.) If you leave the slipper to tight the diff will bark when you hold the rear tires to adjust the slipper.

Go back to the diff guide. You want to hold the rear tires, stab the throttle BRIEFLY. It should pop the front tires about 1-2". No More, No Less!

Patience is the key. You will get there. Take your truck to a track & ask one of the local fast guys for help if you have to.

Thanks for all the tips.

The strange thing is I actually followed the procedure from your link...


"Setting the Slipper Clutch

I will now go over how to set the slipper clutch. To properly set the slipper clutch start by tightening the slipper nut down 3 and ½ turns from when it is flush with the bolt. Now hold both rear tires and have someone pull the throttle, give it a good pull as you are trying to simulate accelerating away from a hard landing. The front end of the vehicle should pop up about three inches. If it does not, stop and tighten the slipper nut about 1/4th of a turn and try again. If it comes up too high, loosen the slipper nut about 1/4th of a turn and try again. Every time you rebuild the diff check the slipper pads and make sure they do not have shiny spots on them, this is called glazing, and can be fixed by carefully scraping the pads with the trailing edge of an X-Acto blade or by replacing the pads. The purpose of the slipper clutch is to protect the transmission by slipping when coming down hard after a jump or accelerating hard. If a sharp whining noise is heard when accelerating, tighten the slipper nut by 1/4th of a turn and try again. Make sure you set your diff before your slipper clutch."


The truck is new, I might disassemble it again because I don't see what could be wrong. I began setting the slipper from the standard setup (0,5mm), and I'm waaaaay tighter than that. I'll try again, I have a race this week-end so I need to find the sweet spot it's getting frstrating. Can the spring be damaged from a full tightening?

kc_nitro_rc 11-15-2011 12:45 PM

Pulse- are you using the ball diff or gear diff? If you have the ball diff make sure to crank the slipper nut down. It won't hurt to fully compress the spring. Set the diff first then the slipper. It was frustrating for me at first but you really do need to crank the slipper nut down.

Did you do the 'break in'? One tire is down and the other off the ground and slowly give it some throttle. I count to about 30, then switch. Do this once or twice. Then tighten the diff a half turn.

If you slowly tighten the diff you will feel when it is about to max out. Carefully tighten it all the way then back off 1/4 turn. I know people will say not to do it this way. But do it this way once to learn.

If you glazed your slipper pads just flip them over and use the other side.

If the slipper nut is to tight your diff will 'bark' (like a grinding sound). Obviously you know what to loose is. Hang in there and you will get it.

How far from 'fully tight' is your diff?


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