Is the hobby really going down?
08-08-2007, 11:42 AM
#31
I was fair with my pricing, At Tower Hobbies the Novak GTB is $244, at Maxamps the 8000mah lipo is $140, and thats internet prices. At the trackI goto, another new racer was recently sold a RTR AE T4 with 2 3800mah batteries and a peak charger, and double "a" batteries for the radio for $380.
That still beats your $380 dollar Losi Brushless, $80 dollar battery, and $40 charger.
$380 or your $500 package? Which one do you think is going to save the hobby?
That still beats your $380 dollar Losi Brushless, $80 dollar battery, and $40 charger.
$380 or your $500 package? Which one do you think is going to save the hobby?
08-08-2007, 11:42 AM
#32
Tech Master
Yeah talk about over inflating. You dont need a Turbo 35. You can use a pulsar 2 or orion advantage, or even an ICE
08-08-2007, 11:45 AM
#33
Tech Master
The hobby is going through one of its low ebbs on the economic cycle. With the price of gas affecting consumer prices of other goods, this is to be expected. Many people out there have less in the disposable income pocket to spend on this "luxury". Then there is the attitudes of the new people coming in which is if I can't win right now (instant gratification), I am going to do something else (the way most in today's society are). Also, most tracks are outdoors and with the heat of the summer months, many choose to sit in the A/C and play their PS3, X-Box 360, etc. There are many other issues causing the decline but like anything else, the up-turn will happen when people have more realized disposable income.
08-08-2007, 12:01 PM
#34
Tech Master
Tell that to the guys who bought the RTRs who sees the local Pros blowing they're doors off has at least 2 Turbo 35s on the pit table, a comm cutter and the battery cooling tray. I have seen it myself.
08-08-2007, 12:10 PM
#35
I was fair with my pricing, At Tower Hobbies the Novak GTB is $244, at Maxamps the 8000mah lipo is $140, and thats internet prices. At the trackI goto, another new racer was recently sold a RTR AE T4 with 2 3800mah batteries and a peak charger, and double "a" batteries for the radio for $380.
That still beats your $380 dollar Losi Brushless, $80 dollar battery, and $40 charger.
$380 or your $500 package? Which one do you think is going to save the hobby?
That still beats your $380 dollar Losi Brushless, $80 dollar battery, and $40 charger.
$380 or your $500 package? Which one do you think is going to save the hobby?
08-08-2007, 12:16 PM
#36
Tech Master
Last night at a club race a kid went into the store and bought an RTR B4 and went and won rookie stock with it. No turbo 35 no lathe, not battery tray.
08-08-2007, 12:20 PM
#37
And how long is that going to last? How many more runs before his batteries and motor suffer due to lack of maintenance equipment? Is the store providing this service for free as he is going to need it if he intends to keep winning rookie stock. In the extremely short term this is more economical but boy will it add up later.
08-08-2007, 12:22 PM
#38
Tech Master
Not comparing apples for apples after that kid wins the Rookie class a few more times he will have to move up where the Turbo 35s are at!
08-08-2007, 01:05 PM
#39
I can beat alot of the fast guys in my area with my old Ib3800's that I purchased for $30 each (a couple years ago, yup still using them), with one Duratrax Ice charger/discharger, and have a comm cut once a month at the shop for $5. I don't know who in the hell gave you any idea that you need all the crap and expense to race, win, and have fun, but they were wrong, and so are you.
Stop outright lying to people about how expensive rc racing is. It dosen't have to be as expensive as you amatuers portray it to be. Perhaps if you had practiced more and had been more successful when you tryed Nimh or Nicd batteries, you wouldn't be so quick to blame them for your lack of success.
You know whats funny, had you walked over to the pit tables of actual pro racers such as Ryan Maifield and other winning associated drivers, you would have seen simple LRP and Reedy Chargers.
Stop outright lying to people about how expensive rc racing is. It dosen't have to be as expensive as you amatuers portray it to be. Perhaps if you had practiced more and had been more successful when you tryed Nimh or Nicd batteries, you wouldn't be so quick to blame them for your lack of success.
You know whats funny, had you walked over to the pit tables of actual pro racers such as Ryan Maifield and other winning associated drivers, you would have seen simple LRP and Reedy Chargers.
08-08-2007, 01:22 PM
#40
I can beat alot of the fast guys in my area with my old Ib3800's that I purchased for $30 each (a couple years ago, yup still using them), with one Duratrax Ice charger/discharger, and have a comm cut once a month at the shop for $5. I don't know who in the hell gave you any idea that you need all the crap and expense to race, win, and have fun, but they were wrong, and so are you.
Stop outright lying to people about how expensive rc racing is. It dosen't have to be as expensive as you amatuers portray it to be. Perhaps if you had practiced more and had been more successful when you tryed Nimh or Nicd batteries, you wouldn't be so quick to blame them for your lack of success.
You know whats funny, had you walked over to the pit tables of actual pro racers such as Ryan Maifield and other winning associated drivers, you would have seen simple LRP and Reedy Chargers.
Stop outright lying to people about how expensive rc racing is. It dosen't have to be as expensive as you amatuers portray it to be. Perhaps if you had practiced more and had been more successful when you tryed Nimh or Nicd batteries, you wouldn't be so quick to blame them for your lack of success.
You know whats funny, had you walked over to the pit tables of actual pro racers such as Ryan Maifield and other winning associated drivers, you would have seen simple LRP and Reedy Chargers.
Agreed!!!
08-08-2007, 01:28 PM
#42
Tech Adept
iTrader: (2)
Scrubb, Your right about NOT having to have all this "Great" stuff & high dollar chargers.The new brushed motors are fine & running 4200's have dood run times & punch. At the Florida State Off-road Series we run the Mod classes 6 min's. & the racing is close, Ruona & Eckert are the lead guys(In mod) & for good reason....They have talent, not better equipment. Also you can bet when lipo's are o.k.ed the vodoo will begin. It's already happening
with the brushless motors as with rotors and such.
Donnie Jackson
with the brushless motors as with rotors and such.
Donnie Jackson
08-08-2007, 01:30 PM
#43
Tech Master
Another nickel battery brushed motor diehard that sees the writing on the wall!
08-08-2007, 01:38 PM
#44
I can beat alot of the fast guys in my area with my old Ib3800's that I purchased for $30 each (a couple years ago, yup still using them), with one Duratrax Ice charger/discharger, and have a comm cut once a month at the shop for $5. I don't know who in the hell gave you any idea that you need all the crap and expense to race, win, and have fun, but they were wrong, and so are you.
Stop outright lying to people about how expensive rc racing is. It dosen't have to be as expensive as you amatuers portray it to be. Perhaps if you had practiced more and had been more successful when you tryed Nimh or Nicd batteries, you wouldn't be so quick to blame them for your lack of success.
You know whats funny, had you walked over to the pit tables of actual pro racers such as Ryan Maifield and other winning associated drivers, you would have seen simple LRP and Reedy Chargers.
Stop outright lying to people about how expensive rc racing is. It dosen't have to be as expensive as you amatuers portray it to be. Perhaps if you had practiced more and had been more successful when you tryed Nimh or Nicd batteries, you wouldn't be so quick to blame them for your lack of success.
You know whats funny, had you walked over to the pit tables of actual pro racers such as Ryan Maifield and other winning associated drivers, you would have seen simple LRP and Reedy Chargers.
Good for you that you are still winning with old batteries however it seems a good portion of NiMH users and most if not all lipo users disagree with your assessment of equipment needed to keep NiMH batteries running well. Maybe your local fast guys aren't quite as fast as other people's local fast guys.
You posted up a cheap kit idea to save RC. Most other racers think they require more than you obviously on the motor and battery maintenance equipment. We gave examples of why we felt you were lowballing that price. We are not wrong simply because we disagree with you.
08-08-2007, 01:39 PM
#45
Craps, your so ignorant, I run brushed and brushless, I had the 8000mah lipo and sold it off to a freind already. I'll race whatever is legal - because I am a racer. I've been racing electric off-road for 23 years, I really don't care if Lipo is made legal to race, I'll race it, just like I've raced with all the previous batteries. I'll be successful with the Lipo's too because I still enjoy playing with R/C cars after all this time.
Your just another RCTech complainer that will need to find something new to complain about when Lipo is made legal. Common, Craps, tell us whats on your agenda next?
Your just another RCTech complainer that will need to find something new to complain about when Lipo is made legal. Common, Craps, tell us whats on your agenda next?