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Welcome to the B6.1 and B6.1D Wiki page.   Features: Easy-access gear differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Laydown Stealth(r) transmission for lower and forward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, standard height Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage Front and rear anti-roll bars limit chassis roll for increased corner speed Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Steel chassis weight Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis   Features: Easy-access ball differential Differential height adjustment with 0, 1, 2, and 3mm inserts included New slipper assembly for better weight balance and shock clearance 3-gear Lay Back Stealth(r) transmission for lower and rearward CG Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite front shock tower with tower guard Heavy-duty V2 routed graphite rear tower, long Heavy-duty V2 rear axle with 67mm bones V2 springs for a more reactive and nimble feel Innovative rear arm with molded inserts for ultra-fine lower shock mount adjustment Molded spur gear guard to help protect body from damage +1 steering block arms optimize feel on dirt tracks Battery strap allows the use of optional turnbuckle-based braces Machined pistons included for better fit and smoother operation Aluminum rear clamping hex and front axle with laser etching Rear hubs feature large bearings and the easy-insert system to adjust camber link position and rear axle height One-piece shock bushing to make assembly easier Aluminum C and D arm mounts included for large range of anti-squat and toe adjustment Lightweight aluminum top shaft Factory Team upgraded ball bearing kit included (now oiled instead of greased for less drag) JConcepts(r) B6 clear body and wing included Shortened, 7075 aluminum chassis Setup Sheets and other documentation Setup sheets for both cars: Piston Drills:
Aftermarket Upgrades: Parts List: Reference Guides (courtesy of Ray Munday and Roger M.): 
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04-29-2018, 05:52 AM
#1036
To use Ae 67 hubs are you guys shaving the hub or the arm?
04-29-2018, 06:36 AM
#1037
For the guys that are saying the car is light. Are you building the kit straight from the box or are you building with Ti screws and other weight saving items.
Because I am not finding the car to be light at all.
I weighed chassis to chassis with my b6.
No tires,battery or body.
Same electronics other than the b6 had. Small fan.
The b6.1 was 60 grams heavier.
My b6 ready to hit the track with both weights under the servo and electronics. WITH 70grams under the battery hits the track at 1551 grams.
My b6.1 same weights minus the 70grams under the battery and it was 1620.
I can see where guys may be seeing it as “light” since the new car comes with a light weight body where other kits didn’t.
Thats why I weighed just chassis vs chassis.
Other than that the car is pretty good. Made a few changes to suit me and my track. But was able to TQ and get a win on the first day out.
Also another problem I noticed.
While running JConcepts Pindowns in the rear the tires are hitting the wing causing a lot of inconsistency.
I did cut out some “relief” area in the wing and that helped.
Just wondering if anyone else saw this problem.
Because I am not finding the car to be light at all.
I weighed chassis to chassis with my b6.
No tires,battery or body.
Same electronics other than the b6 had. Small fan.
The b6.1 was 60 grams heavier.
My b6 ready to hit the track with both weights under the servo and electronics. WITH 70grams under the battery hits the track at 1551 grams.
My b6.1 same weights minus the 70grams under the battery and it was 1620.
I can see where guys may be seeing it as “light” since the new car comes with a light weight body where other kits didn’t.
Thats why I weighed just chassis vs chassis.
Other than that the car is pretty good. Made a few changes to suit me and my track. But was able to TQ and get a win on the first day out.
Also another problem I noticed.
While running JConcepts Pindowns in the rear the tires are hitting the wing causing a lot of inconsistency.
I did cut out some “relief” area in the wing and that helped.
Just wondering if anyone else saw this problem.
It is heavier than the original B6 due to the new transmission case and extra hardware needed, but I feel it is negligible in affecting performance. The B6.1 is a great step forward in regards to handling, tuning, and maintenance.
04-29-2018, 07:48 AM
#1038
The new car is pretty light. The brass weights under the battery are helpful to add weight without making the front end too heavy. There's a lot of debate on heavier vs. lighter cars and which is best. Personally my car, whether running 17.5 or mod, has handled best between 1540-1570 grams.
04-29-2018, 05:20 PM
#1042
Looks like a bad imitation of a 22 4.0.
I've built and owned lots of AE cars and have just finished building a 22 4.0.
Blown away.
AE could at least design a car that has some origional thinking and engineering involved, like Schumacher or Hot Bodies, but then, if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy the best.
The quick access to the diff is cool, but open the diff and it looks like something out of a Tamiya Astute.
TLR's planetary gear diff is beyond comparison to the AE part.
The 4.0 ball diff is the best ball diff I've ever built and I've built lots.
Don't waste your money, just go buy a 22 4.0.
I've built and owned lots of AE cars and have just finished building a 22 4.0.
Blown away.
AE could at least design a car that has some origional thinking and engineering involved, like Schumacher or Hot Bodies, but then, if you're going to copy something, you might as well copy the best.
The quick access to the diff is cool, but open the diff and it looks like something out of a Tamiya Astute.
TLR's planetary gear diff is beyond comparison to the AE part.
The 4.0 ball diff is the best ball diff I've ever built and I've built lots.
Don't waste your money, just go buy a 22 4.0.
Dont understand this new wave of lay down mid motor spend all my cash type cars.
This is on CRC black.
Last edited by Metalsoft; 04-29-2018 at 06:00 PM.
04-29-2018, 08:16 PM
#1043
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Shorter Wheelbase
For those who run on astroturf or high traction carpet how has the short wheelbase changed your setup..... if at all?
04-29-2018, 10:02 PM
#1044
Drove the b6.1 for the first time today. I currently drive Xb2 and xb4 in two other classes. Didn’t want to dump all the money into another Xb2 to get it the way I like. I set it up as close I could to my Xb2, using Schelle -2 hubs very similar to the new team kit hubs from X-ray, +1 steering blocks, aluminum steering rack/ bell crank/ horn, all the brass/ steel weights bulk head, some shims, and the only other things I changed from stock was differential to 10k and 450cst front, 400cst rear shocks per my track layout. I was very impressed with how responsive the car was. Corner exits were super impressive. My biggest complaints are the ball cups, especially on the steering links, even with chap stick and dry wax I managed to pop them off the steering links a few times. When assembling the turnbuckles I was worried about it after how easily they snapped into the ball studs. A buddy at the track recommended the b5m cups, so I’ll give those a try. My only other complaints are motor mount fan locations. I tried to mount the fan in the left rear next to the slipper spring “clearing the slipper lock nut by maybe 2.5-3mm” and that only lasted a few runs. I saw a few recommendations in earlier posts, any other options or ideas would be greatly appreciated. Overall I’m very happy with the car, easy to drive with responsive tuning.
04-30-2018, 06:00 AM
#1046
Tech Initiate
Anyone know if the B6.1 Shock Caps are the same as the B6? I would think so, but just wanted to be sure. I can't find the B6 caps in stock anywhere, but the 6.1 seem available.
Thanks
Thanks
04-30-2018, 07:29 AM
#1047
04-30-2018, 10:07 AM
#1049
Tech Initiate
Maybe it's worth going aluminum.
04-30-2018, 10:48 AM
#1050
For the guys that are saying the car is light. Are you building the kit straight from the box or are you building with Ti screws and other weight saving items.
Because I am not finding the car to be light at all.
I weighed chassis to chassis with my b6.
No tires,battery or body.
Same electronics other than the b6 had. Small fan.
The b6.1 was 60 grams heavier.
My b6 ready to hit the track with both weights under the servo and electronics. WITH 70grams under the battery hits the track at 1551 grams.
My b6.1 same weights minus the 70grams under the battery and it was 1620.
I can see where guys may be seeing it as “light” since the new car comes with a light weight body where other kits didn’t.
Thats why I weighed just chassis vs chassis.
Other than that the car is pretty good. Made a few changes to suit me and my track. But was able to TQ and get a win on the first day out.
Also another problem I noticed.
While running JConcepts Pindowns in the rear the tires are hitting the wing causing a lot of inconsistency.
I did cut out some “relief” area in the wing and that helped.
Just wondering if anyone else saw this problem.
Because I am not finding the car to be light at all.
I weighed chassis to chassis with my b6.
No tires,battery or body.
Same electronics other than the b6 had. Small fan.
The b6.1 was 60 grams heavier.
My b6 ready to hit the track with both weights under the servo and electronics. WITH 70grams under the battery hits the track at 1551 grams.
My b6.1 same weights minus the 70grams under the battery and it was 1620.
I can see where guys may be seeing it as “light” since the new car comes with a light weight body where other kits didn’t.
Thats why I weighed just chassis vs chassis.
Other than that the car is pretty good. Made a few changes to suit me and my track. But was able to TQ and get a win on the first day out.
Also another problem I noticed.
While running JConcepts Pindowns in the rear the tires are hitting the wing causing a lot of inconsistency.
I did cut out some “relief” area in the wing and that helped.
Just wondering if anyone else saw this problem.