BRUSHLESS 21.5 STOCK SPEC RACING @ WEST COAST RACEWAY
03-13-2010, 09:08 AM
#31
Thanks to Novak and WestCoast for being pro active is supporting onroad!
I also like the fact that they are using common sense in not going spec crazy and only limiting things to things that matter the most Motor wind, Speed control, and tires.... IMO adding anything else to the spec rule would mean people would have to purchase more things that they already have to begin with... Most racers already have batteries ,chassis w/parts, and bodies so removing that from the equation should make this a true budget friendly class that is practical to get into.... I know some spec classes that require esc, motors, chassis, tires, bodies,etc, etc....... which seems to defeat the purpose of budget when you add up the expense of start up! I like the fact that it does not deviate from the nature of sedan too much making the transition to the other established sedan classes a natural progression... Even the spec tire TOP is the choice for most other races so those can be used at a lot of different events!
I also like the Idea someone posted to have the guys prepay $130 worth of entry fees for the free speed contro. This will help make sure this class has at minimum 8 racers = 1 full heat per week.
Sorry for the long post!
I also like the fact that they are using common sense in not going spec crazy and only limiting things to things that matter the most Motor wind, Speed control, and tires.... IMO adding anything else to the spec rule would mean people would have to purchase more things that they already have to begin with... Most racers already have batteries ,chassis w/parts, and bodies so removing that from the equation should make this a true budget friendly class that is practical to get into.... I know some spec classes that require esc, motors, chassis, tires, bodies,etc, etc....... which seems to defeat the purpose of budget when you add up the expense of start up! I like the fact that it does not deviate from the nature of sedan too much making the transition to the other established sedan classes a natural progression... Even the spec tire TOP is the choice for most other races so those can be used at a lot of different events!
I also like the Idea someone posted to have the guys prepay $130 worth of entry fees for the free speed contro. This will help make sure this class has at minimum 8 racers = 1 full heat per week.
Sorry for the long post!
03-13-2010, 09:14 AM
#32
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Picked up another "Cyclone S" to run this new spec class with!! I'll have TWO spec cars as my first entries back into RC 1/10 scale racing along with my F-1's!! Cyclone's are a great way to get into onroad--only $129.00 for a COMPLETE kit with body--that handles great right out of the box!! How do I know??? I built one two weeks ago and it's an easy build--and even set up like they say on the kit sheet---it handles really well.
So bring out your old car--or get a new one---come race with us in the NOVAK SPEC SERIES!!!
Tim
So bring out your old car--or get a new one---come race with us in the NOVAK SPEC SERIES!!!
Tim
03-13-2010, 10:40 AM
#33
So I currently own a few non-timing advance b/l esc, and a 21.5 motor. But to race this class I still need to come off of an additional $130 for the allowed brand specific esc/motor combo?
03-13-2010, 07:52 PM
#34
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That's right---it's called the "Novak " series--- so if you want to play--you need to have the ONLY spec'd items necessary---Havoc--NOVAK 21.5 and tires. Simple, If you don't want to run the class--there's already lot's of others for you to run with whatever esc you have.
I will never understand the complainers when someone sets up a "Spec" race series. There's LOT'S of other class's to run---Only ONE spec class. Run something else---or meet the spec rules to run the class. Either way---have FUN with what you RUN!!
Simple isn't it??
I will never understand the complainers when someone sets up a "Spec" race series. There's LOT'S of other class's to run---Only ONE spec class. Run something else---or meet the spec rules to run the class. Either way---have FUN with what you RUN!!
Simple isn't it??
03-13-2010, 08:30 PM
#35
looking forward to this class... I can really see it evolving into the pro's running 13.5 with Tekin level ESC's... and everyone else running this class... The world will then be as it should , the big boys pushing the envelop of what these cars can do with Ferrari budgets 
... and the rest of us racing evenly matched machines with an emphasis on driving and a realistic budget
... and the rest of us racing evenly matched machines with an emphasis on driving and a realistic budget
03-13-2010, 09:13 PM
#36
Great idea, I too have a Cyclone S lonely in the stack of once used vehicles somewhere in my garage. Can't wait to break it out again. Maybe I can stop playing around with gearing and timing and actually drive and tune again ......
03-14-2010, 10:14 AM
#37
How did the Novak Havoc 2S/21.5 SS Pro system handout/raffle go?
03-14-2010, 02:56 PM
#38
i was there from 10am - 5pm and didn't hear one mention of it.
03-14-2010, 06:40 PM
#40
Bob(novak), and Westcoast(danny)
I just wanted to tell you guys I think this is a great idea and to raffle off some systems is a great way to get this class going.
Bob , Now that we have a great indoor track you think we could have a Novak race someday ? Stay Local
I just wanted to tell you guys I think this is a great idea and to raffle off some systems is a great way to get this class going.
Bob , Now that we have a great indoor track you think we could have a Novak race someday ? Stay Local
03-14-2010, 08:09 PM
#41
That's right---it's called the "Novak " series--- so if you want to play--you need to have the ONLY spec'd items necessary---Havoc--NOVAK 21.5 and tires. Simple, If you don't want to run the class--there's already lot's of others for you to run with whatever esc you have.
I will never understand the complainers when someone sets up a "Spec" race series. There's LOT'S of other class's to run---Only ONE spec class. Run something else---or meet the spec rules to run the class. Either way---have FUN with what you RUN!!
Simple isn't it??
I will never understand the complainers when someone sets up a "Spec" race series. There's LOT'S of other class's to run---Only ONE spec class. Run something else---or meet the spec rules to run the class. Either way---have FUN with what you RUN!!
Simple isn't it??
Although my question seems so simple to you let me explain my concern, not complaint, further.
I understood the goal was to provide a less expensive class to get new, less experienced or less skilled drivers on the track inexpensively. Well with that in mind, I have a buddy who is interested in racing, but is tight on funds. I have an extra T2007 sedan, an "obsolete" Novak GTB esc, and a Tekin 21.5 motor Since your return to r/c you have acquired a lot of various cars. Spend your money however you see fit, but others who also want to participate may not be as fortunate as you. Is the picture becoming more simple?
I suspect there are a lot of older touring cars and even more older non-timing advancing speed controls out there. So timmig, why not let such slower/older/cheaper equipment be used?
Have FUN with what you RUN!!
03-14-2010, 08:16 PM
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" Is the picture becoming more simple?"
The simplest thing of all --- SPEC ESC's--tires and motor. Nothing else needs to be added---BUT--where do you draw the line on exceptions? I've already got a motor--I"ve already got tires--I've already got an ESC---why do I need a new one?
You're right---I've been very fortunate!! I'd be happy to help anyone get started too!! And I'm sure some time in the future---a "Spec" class could be created for all of the old stuff around out there. But this one has been sponsored by a manufacturer---that should mean something for the manufacturer---otherwise--why do it? Tamiya does a similar thing---you can run on their track nearly every Saturday--all they ask--is you use their cars!!
IF you really need BUDGET racing----and I'M ALL FOR THAT---run the ABC TrueSpec series-- you can't get any more low budget than that---and it's a LOT of fun. AND---there are a LOT of class's for your friend to run in--- if he can't afford a NEW class--that's okay--- CHarlie's got LOT'S of class's to run in--he'll find one for your friend to fit in!!
FWIW
Tim
The simplest thing of all --- SPEC ESC's--tires and motor. Nothing else needs to be added---BUT--where do you draw the line on exceptions? I've already got a motor--I"ve already got tires--I've already got an ESC---why do I need a new one?
You're right---I've been very fortunate!! I'd be happy to help anyone get started too!! And I'm sure some time in the future---a "Spec" class could be created for all of the old stuff around out there. But this one has been sponsored by a manufacturer---that should mean something for the manufacturer---otherwise--why do it? Tamiya does a similar thing---you can run on their track nearly every Saturday--all they ask--is you use their cars!!
IF you really need BUDGET racing----and I'M ALL FOR THAT---run the ABC TrueSpec series-- you can't get any more low budget than that---and it's a LOT of fun. AND---there are a LOT of class's for your friend to run in--- if he can't afford a NEW class--that's okay--- CHarlie's got LOT'S of class's to run in--he'll find one for your friend to fit in!!
FWIW
Tim
Last edited by timmig; 03-14-2010 at 08:33 PM.
03-16-2010, 03:27 AM
#43
JUST TO MAKE SURE....
GREAT CLASS to run in. It should make for some close racing.
Would there be an issue with running a NOVAK GTB and NOVAK 21.5? I understand SPEC would be the HAVOK, however would runnng ALL NOVAK stuff (that is already owned) propose a problem?
Thanks!
Would there be an issue with running a NOVAK GTB and NOVAK 21.5? I understand SPEC would be the HAVOK, however would runnng ALL NOVAK stuff (that is already owned) propose a problem?
Thanks!
03-17-2010, 09:10 AM
#44
+1
i aso have a GTB sitting around & would like to run this class.
i aso have a GTB sitting around & would like to run this class.
03-17-2010, 09:23 AM
#45
lemme preface by saying I would love GTBs to be allowed as I have one of these "antiquated" ESCs.
As attractive and cost saving for some of us that would be, it defeats the purpose of "spec." If it is discovered that GTBs have an advantage over the Havocs, what do you think would happen? The same goes for motors. The "spec" goes out the window.
my two pennies
As attractive and cost saving for some of us that would be, it defeats the purpose of "spec." If it is discovered that GTBs have an advantage over the Havocs, what do you think would happen? The same goes for motors. The "spec" goes out the window.
my two pennies