catogtp

iTrader: (26)

I can't believe anyone would post that it's not that bad and you can use a tool to press the button. It wasn't disclosed in the original FS post and that is the reason why the buyer is upset. This is why a seller should take all necessary steps to disclose anything that may even be a remote possibility that a buyer would take issue with it. It's your duty as a seller to cover everything to protect yourself.

To add to the car analogy, the scraped up and bare wires along with the missing programming button would be like buying a car with the positive cable of the battery exposed and the shifter missing. Sure it may run and drive but if you can't shift the gears you might as well leave it in the driveway and hope the bare wire doesn't short out and set the car on fire.

XXXDad

iTrader: (198)

I wish he would not have hid the defects from me.... also, no comunication after sale. I sent a few PM and Paypal sent Claim notice ...... still nothing and he's on here almost evryday!

orcadigital

iTrader: (61)

Please don't get me wrong, I do not agree with what the seller did/is doing, but just throwing it out there that there are ESC's that require something other then the use of a finger to program, and that from a functionality standpoint, the ESC might work. As the switch without the cover looks just like the one on my Speed Passion, I would have never known it was missing something.

Honestly, if LRP made a tool specifically to push the buttons on their ESC's, I'd probably be the person to buy it. I am OCD like that.

XXXDad

iTrader: (198)

Paypal sided with me , now we see if he has funds left over to refund me.
If not they put the squeez on him I guess.
Wish he would have comunicated and worked something out.
Feedback is next..... I hate that this happend.

XXXDad

iTrader: (198)

Im Done

http://www.rctech.net/forum/itrader.php?u=78521

skengines

iTrader: (226)

Wow..that speedo looks terrible.

Glad you were able to get it resolved.

XXXDad

iTrader: (198)

Have yet to see money.... his acount empty..... I just wanted to work it out with him. He had been on here almost evryday, but ingnored my PM's

Have to let karma play out now....

skengines

iTrader: (226)

Shouldn't paypal at least credit you?

It should know a negative balance on his end.

QYKLSVR

iTrader: (104)

Thats correct, it should be. But the guy may be interacting over the phone which could be dragging it out.

shagino

iTrader: (57)

If PayPal doesn't credit the funds, buyer protection is garbage then.

XXXDad

iTrader: (198)

Paypal did credit me..... was like the next day. Been working 12 hour days so didnt realy check up. So yes.... have been credited, now I will send back speedo when he conferms adress and I will require signature. Just to cover my end, Sad this ever happened. Most all people here so very good.

orcadigital

iTrader: (61)

They gave you credit without proof of sending it back? That does not sound right. Is it there or just pending your return shipping?

I only ask out of curiosity. I have not had to do a Paypal claim, but always was told this to be the case.

shagino

iTrader: (57)

Thanks. Good to know. Glad it's over for you.

XXXDad

iTrader: (198)

They did not tell me or request me to send it back before refund.

racer1812

iTrader: (31)

XXXDad isn't the first person I've seen with this situation. Could it be that the seller doesn't communicate or dispute the PP claim? Maybe if you file a claim for an item not being as described and the seller disagrees PP says you must return the item for a refund, but if they don't dispute the charge and you the buyer provide enough information to "prove" your claim they simply figure the seller doesn't care enough to warrant sending it back to them?? I'm not sure.....?

Either way at this point XXXDad is doing the morally right thing and giving the seller the option to get his item back, with some very simple requests to do so. Verifying the return address and being aware that he must sign for it upon arrival.