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greek god 04-25-2012 09:09 PM

greek god
 
:tire:Hi guys in VTA land we in Bendigo got 10 cars at our last metting from dogde
mustangs and carmaros and cudas and the class is growing next meeting we will have a 67 corvette.

We run 6 mins heats and 8 mins finals as they do in the states but the 8 mins is getting looked at .

We are having a classic wich will be the RAB bendigo classic and we are having VTA as a class so come an race and enjoy the RAB classic is on the 23th--24th of june see you there.:nod:

nexxus 04-25-2012 09:10 PM

Agreed, on 17.5 Blinky with a FDR around 3.5-4 left to right balance and chassis flex play a significant part. Any of the older chassis with Nimh cut outs I was finding to be very inconsistant and prone to oversteer.

Rubedude 04-25-2012 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by ta04evah (Post 10653313)
Rube, at Castle Hill on Friday nights we're starting to get a VTA class up and running too.
The rules & guidelines are pretty much the same as what you have put in here, mostly relating to car types, weight, motors, esc's, tires, body shells etc.
There's nothing set in stone as yet as we are evaluating what people would like within the class but I dare say it'll be similar to what you have put here.

Another thought with the VTA class is for the length of time for the races, with pretty much everyone having decent high capacity lipo batteries maybe consider extending the time from 5 mins to 6 mins, maybe even more for a final?

Not so long ago I got myself a Dodge Challenger shell but part of the sticker sheet had come loose and was sticking to itself. The rear bumper sticker was trashed along with the rear trim around the tail lights, I was able to carefully rescue the tail light one thankfully.
Seeing your paint design on your Dodge gave me a little inspiration on how to do a paint job that looked good without having the rear chrome bumper sticker. Not shown in the pictures is a Hobbyking set of car led's that I picked up for about $5 and installed them in the car which has earned it the nick name of "Sparkles" at the track.
Cheers
Rob.

Lookin good Rob like my Green one but different lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yeah look mate the Time thing is really a club decission Id personally love 6 min heats 8 or even 10 min finals but I dont really want to touch that one because lets say Tuesday night racing is pretty pressed as it is trying to get out before midnight.. If you get an extraordinary night and you get those where you may have upto three heats of one class then adding the extra mins can make the whole meeting run way over..

On our track this may be possible for Sunday day meats where its more relaxed etc.. But I hear ya.. :nod: With regards to current rules I did say the ones I put up were roughly the ones accepted by most clubs and agree they are not set in stone but I would say for a number of good reasons we should stick to 21.5 any more then you would have to bend the rules into an area where we have seen many times turns to a shit fight... any faster your wheels will become an issue hence you then change the rim tyre rule then there is the issue that faster may mean excluding budget type chassis for higher end that would then exclude some people who would otherwise already have something to throw down and have fum.. Breakages become more it then spirals out.. IMO this should stay a fun class where Joe Blow out there has a chassis that will do with some TLC he can get it on and have fun with the rest.. again my opinion only .. Im just getting fed up with classes that start out as fun then turn into "Well if you dont use that oil this chassis that motor these foams on your tyres see ya later ' .. Love the cuda mate youre a man after my own heart...:nod::nod::nod::nod::D


Originally Posted by greek god (Post 10653721)
:tire:Hi guys in VTA land we in Bendigo got 10 cars at our last metting from dogde
mustangs and carmaros and cudas and the class is growing next meeting we will have a 67 corvette.

We run 6 mins heats and 8 mins finals as they do in the states but the 8 mins is getting looked at .

We are having a classic wich will be the RAB bendigo classic and we are having VTA as a class so come an race and enjoy the RAB classic is on the 23th--24th of june see you there.:nod:

Awesome good to see you guys out there .. would love an opportunity to race with you guys either state .. please get some pics and post em here for all us VTA freeks to drool over keep up the good work ;)

ta04evah 04-25-2012 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by Rubedude (Post 10654084)
Lookin good Rob like my Green one but different lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yeah look mate the Time thing is really a club decission Id personally love 6 min heats 8 or even 10 min finals but I dont really want to touch that one because lets say Tuesday night racing is pretty pressed as it is trying to get out before midnight.. If you get an extraordinary night and you get those where you may have upto three heats of one class then adding the extra mins can make the whole meeting run way over..

On our track this may be possible for Sunday day meats where its more relaxed etc.. But I hear ya.. :nod: With regards to current rules I did say the ones I put up were roughly the ones accepted by most clubs and agree they are not set in stone but I would say for a number of good reasons we should stick to 21.5 any more then you would have to bend the rules into an area where we have seen many times turns to a shit fight... any faster your wheels will become an issue hence you then change the rim tyre rule then there is the issue that faster may mean excluding budget type chassis for higher end that would then exclude some people who would otherwise already have something to throw down and have fum.. Breakages become more it then spirals out.. IMO this should stay a fun class where Joe Blow out there has a chassis that will do with some TLC he can get it on and have fun with the rest.. again my opinion only .. Im just getting fed up with classes that start out as fun then turn into "Well if you dont use that oil this chassis that motor these foams on your tyres see ya later ' .. Love the cuda mate youre a man after my own heart...:nod::nod::nod::nod::D

Same with the races on Fri nights, the racing at times is pushed through rather quickly and I can fully understand why as some people don't go home till late after a very long day of work etc. I'm fortunate in a way that I have some free time to help setup and pack away things away for those that do the organising, but not everyone has this liberty.
Maybe something like the above could be done on a night/day that doesn't have as many entries but for now what we have is still great too. :nod:

And I agree with the 21.5 motor guidline as this means others that race 21.5 blinky TC can basically change body shell & tires with out too much change to the car except for roll out etc. Along with the fact being the faster you go the quicker and harder you hit something and possibly break something very important. (Us more mature racers don't have as good reflexes as we used to :D )

As for chassis, I'm using a TA05 that I bought off Nexxus. A couple of weeks ago I ran it in 21.5 TC blinky at the 2nd round of Challenge Cup at Illawarra.
After changing the rims/tires & body shell I raced it as a VTA car with very little if any changes to the car. :D

Cheers
Rob.

Rubedude 04-25-2012 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by ta04evah (Post 10654182)
Same with the races on Fri nights, the racing at times is pushed through rather quickly and I can fully understand why as some people don't go home till late after a very long day of work etc. I'm fortunate in a way that I have some free time to help setup and pack away things away for those that do the organising, but not everyone has this liberty.
Maybe something like the above could be done on a night/day that doesn't have as many entries but for now what we have is still great too. :nod:

And I agree with the 21.5 motor guidline as this means others that race 21.5 blinky TC can basically change body shell & tires with out too much change to the car except for roll out etc. Along with the fact being the faster you go the quicker and harder you hit something and possibly break something very important. (Us more mature racers don't have as good reflexes as we used to :D )

As for chassis, I'm using a TA05 that I bought off Nexxus. A couple of weeks ago I ran it in 21.5 TC blinky at the 2nd round of Challenge Cup at Illawarra.
After changing the rims/tires & body shell I raced it as a VTA car with very little if any changes to the car. :D

Cheers
Rob.

Thats the thing I love bout the class you can make just about aything go well... should come down Sunday for a friendly timed prac run... I have to get my but there on a friday one of these days too.... :D Yep reflexes aint what they used to be thats fer sure... :sneaky::sweat:

nexxus 04-26-2012 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by ta04evah (Post 10654182)
Same with the races on Fri nights, the racing at times is pushed through rather quickly and I can fully understand why as some people don't go home till late after a very long day of work etc. I'm fortunate in a way that I have some free time to help setup and pack away things away for those that do the organising, but not everyone has this liberty.
Maybe something like the above could be done on a night/day that doesn't have as many entries but for now what we have is still great too. :nod:

And I agree with the 21.5 motor guidline as this means others that race 21.5 blinky TC can basically change body shell & tires with out too much change to the car except for roll out etc. Along with the fact being the faster you go the quicker and harder you hit something and possibly break something very important. (Us more mature racers don't have as good reflexes as we used to :D )

As for chassis, I'm using a TA05 that I bought off Nexxus. A couple of weeks ago I ran it in 21.5 TC blinky at the 2nd round of Challenge Cup at Illawarra.
After changing the rims/tires & body shell I raced it as a VTA car with very little if any changes to the car. :D

Cheers
Rob.

That's just the way I had it set up for you :D

mingnon 04-26-2012 01:18 AM

Rubes and others that run VTA at Tempe
Why don't we try the 6 minute qualifying and 8 minute Final at the race day on Sunday 6th May.

Have to agree that making the Tuesday night races any longer will be pushing it. Running race control with the amount of people we have had lately is awkward enough with 5minutes, and it is turning into a late night.

I really don't see that anyone will have a problem on the Sundays extending the race times, especially as Matt M and myself are running race control. But, so that everyone knows, we are having a committee meeting on Monday and i will bring it up at committee, think it is fair that they have a voice in this as well. How does everyone feel about it?

Also i think that the Sunday VTA racing is possibly the best way to go, as the Tuesday numbers are up and down, and it really is getting to be a late night with all the classes we run at SMA.

If there are enough of us at practice on Sunday, we can all have a chat about the VTA format, i can type it up and take any proposals we decide to the meeting on Monday, and feed back through here or via phone.

What are your thoughts?

2158peterg 04-26-2012 01:30 AM

I would love to race longer times.I would run 10-15 minute races if I could.6 min qualifying and 8 min mains sound great to me also sunday vta works best for me but every second sunday might be offroad rally weather dependent

Rubedude 04-26-2012 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by mingnon (Post 10654316)
Rubes and others that run VTA at Tempe
Why don't we try the 6 minute qualifying and 8 minute Final at the race day on Sunday 6th May.

If there are enough of us at practice on Sunday, we can all have a chat about the VTA format, i can type it up and take any proposals we decide to the meeting on Monday, and feed back through here or via phone.

What are your thoughts?

Mate like I said doing it Tuesdays will be very hard as we run till close to midnight on normal race meats let alone big ones.. Sundays I agree best time for it we can not only do longer heats and finals for VTA but the Mini guys and F1's might like it also... All for it you know me Ill run whatever for as long as anyone wants till my motor blows or I get tapped on the shoulder by security lmao :p:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lo l::lol::lol::cool:


Originally Posted by 2158peterg (Post 10654328)
I would love to race longer times.I would run 10-15 minute races if I could.6 min qualifying and 8 min mains sound great to me also sunday vta works best for me but every second sunday might be offroad rally weather dependent

Dont ever change Pete, thats why I love ya ;)

2158peterg 04-26-2012 03:25 AM

Here's video from the trans am series you might enjoy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn0OOSQPXT8
Also Allan Moffat's 69 trans am mustang in car footage- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYLrd7LS6zI

mingnon 04-26-2012 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by 2158peterg (Post 10654482)
Here's video from the trans am series you might enjoy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn0OOSQPXT8
Also Allan Moffat's 69 trans am mustang in car footage- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYLrd7LS6zI

gotta love the amount of wheel work moffat is doing:D

looks like he needed to grow an extra half a foot to get some of them gears

thanks pete great posts:nod::nod::nod::nod:

Rubedude 04-26-2012 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by mingnon (Post 10654487)
gotta love the amount of wheel work moffat is doing:D

looks like he needed to grow an extra half a foot to get some of them gears

thanks pete great posts:nod::nod::nod::nod:

Wait till you see my Moffatt Number 9 Coca Cola ;) Excellent video....

By the way Rumor has it that SOMEONE will debut the Pontiac 79 on Sunday!!! :batman::cool::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire:

I also have confirmation the A9X is mere weeks away :D

mingnon 04-26-2012 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by Rubedude (Post 10654512)
Wait till you see my Moffatt Number 9 Coca Cola ;) Excellent video....

By the way Rumor has it that SOMEONE will debut the Pontiac 79 on Sunday!!! :batman::cool::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire:

excellent cant wait to see it, will have the camera there as well, so methinks a grand VTA lineup pic is on the cards

rubedude: if you remember, can you chuck in a set of front vta tyres and rims for me and will fix you up Sunday at SMA

matt b

Rozzt_iwa 04-26-2012 04:07 AM

sorry i can't make it this sunday

2158peterg 04-26-2012 04:16 AM

All we need is a torana or two and a gtho or two for a perfect looking muscle car race.Can't wait for sunday fun :tire::nod::tire:


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