VTA at SMA and General Trans Am THread
 

Hi Guys a few people from VTA have been considering starting a new VTA Thread for ourselves and general discussion for VTA Enthusiasts. Here we can discuss compare and assist in growing this greatest of all Fun Classes. So if you want some information, set up discussion, show off your bodies or any VTA related news tips and tricks make this your Aussie VTA discussion thread...

Regards,
Rube ;)

Here are the current "Generally Accepted" Club rules as they stand around several Australian clubs at the moment to give you an idea..


Chassis Specification:
Any 1/10 4wd or Fwd sedan with 4 wheel independent suspension.

Weight Specification:
1500g weight

Body Specifications:
Any 190mm or 200mm body. 1960 to 79 Either HPI or Others suitable, SMA has made variation to include Australian Muscle.. No Slanted or modern Japanese cars etc..

Tire & Wheel Specifications:
Tires-Any treaded HPI Vintage #4793 Fronts # 4797 Rears
Wheels- Any HPI Vintage 26 Front 32 Rear Example #3815 Fronts #3820 Rears

Five or Eight spoke wheels available in various colors. 0mm offset front wheels and 6mm offset rear wheels are intended for 26mm width fronts and 31mm width rear tires. 8-spoke Vintage wheels from #3805 through #3814, 5-spoke Vintage wheels from #3815 through #3822 and Vintage stock car wheels from #3854 through #3860, Vintage Wheel CC Type #33472 and #33473, Vintage Wheel DTP Type #33474 and #33475 are all legal wheels.

Ride Height Specification:
Minimum ride height is 5mm.

Motor Specifications:
21.5 + 2s lipo batteries No tuning rotors, must use OEM rotor 12.3-12.5mm (Motor itself can have timing as per approved 21.5 list) Check the ROAR List HERE http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/...lessmotors.php

Approved ESCs:
No Timing Just Stock or Blinky ESC ROAR approved spec software or USVTA list
Some popular Types but not limited to include;

#Hobby Wing Just Stock
#Hobby Wing 120 with Blinky
#Speed Passion Just Stock
#Novak Kinetic with Blinky
#GTB Just Stock
#Reedy Just Stock

For More ESC Options Check ROAR List HERE http://www.roarracing.com/?page_id=737

Race Specification:
5 minute qualifiers
5 minute mains

Battery Specifications:
ROAR approved hard case batteries Check ROAR List HERE http://www.roarracing.org/?page_id=259


... UPDATED BODY LIST WITH THE NEWEST BODIES AVAILABLE ...

HERE ARESome Body's and part numbers available for VTA from various manufacturers

Bolink part numbers:
BL2262 '68 Chevrolet Camaro
Also known as RJ Speed Part # BOL2262
BL2263 '65 Ford Mustang
Also known as RJ Speed Part # BOL2263
NEW # BOL2287 1970 Plymouth Wedge Road Runner
NEW # BOL2257 1969 Dukes of Hazard Charger
NEW # BOL2264 1964 Cadillac
NEW # BOL2265 1974 Tallageda
NEW # BOL2286 1972 Mercury

HPI part numbers:
17510 - 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda
7494 - 1968 Chevrolet Camaro
17531 - 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28
17508 - 1965 Ford Shelby GT-350
17519 - 1966 Ford Mustang GT
104926 - 1966 FORD MUSTANG GT COUPE BODY
105106 - 1970 DODGE CHALLENGER BODY
100639 - 1967 CHEV CORVETTE -Painted Black Body
100473 - 1967 CHEV CORVETTE -Painted Blue Body
NEW 107201 -1978 PONTIAC TRANS AM Body

Note:
For the HPI Mustangs which are not provided with a spoiler:
A lexan spoiler of 16mm total height from trunk deck, and overall chord of 20mm is allowable. All other bodies must use the spoiler included with that specific body set. Built in spoilers may not be enhanced. 17546 - 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 (scale wing ok)

Parma part numbers:
10196 - Parma 61 Chevy Impala Body
10143 - 1969 Z28 Camaro
10141 - 1970 Boss Mustang
10113 - 1970 'Cuda

Pegasus Hobbies part numbers:
NEW PGH4000 - 1964 Chev Impala
PGH4001 - 1970 Camaro SS
PGH4002 - 1970 'Cuda
PGH4003 - 1970 Mustang

Protoform part numbers:
#1526 - 1971 Javelin SS

McAllister Racing part numbers:
#286- 1969 Mustang body

RC CAR KINGS:
#RAE719 - 1978 Smokey and the Bandit Pontiac

Great Vigor:
#210119 - Holden XU1 Torana
After May the A9X will be Released!!

Exclusive Collectibles:
#2006B - Ford XY GT Red
#2010B - Ford XY GT Gold

EUREKA:
#MUSCLE5 - Holden SLR 5000

Great stuff our own thread maybe some setup & gearing tips as well.My car is going & handling well but not quite fast enough.I have an older speed passion 21.5 with 0-10 degrees timing and 3.207:1 fdr I plan to go to 3.05:1 which is 1 tooth up on the pinion 2 teeth will take me to 2.9:1.Should I go straight to 2.9?

Here's some vta inspiration

Your car runs cold mate I think go straight to 2.9 and see what happens... Mine is currently at 2.8 FD and still a tad cold... ;) Sunday Prac cant wait :lol::lol::lol::D

Here are some of mine ..

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...achinecopy.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...3/DSC_8252.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...3/DSC_8250.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...3/DSC_8249.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...under6-121.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...3/DSC_8197.jpg

WOOHOOO go the VTA thread, thanks rube for the posts ^^^

Bring on Sunday practice at SMA - Gates open at 11am. It is a timed practice day, so will have the laptop, transponders and all the gear there :nod::nod:

RIP Camaro body
 

The red camaro body is close to "going to god":cry:
after a couple of "incidents" last night, and 3 times on the roof, its cracked up badly, hopefully shoe goo can assist.

One great thing learnt last night, thanks Matt J - dont put new tyres on the front, and leave worn rears on the back. It was funny and at times spectacular, (especially the triple summersault with a half pike).

Georges new body shell survived unscathed and intact, despite the bounty being placed :weird::lol::lol::lol::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

Looking forward to Sunday everyone, will have laptop, transponders etc there as it is a timed practice, so im sure that is secret VTA code for -
!!!!Bring on the racing!!!!!

Have you seen my stang the whole front end is no more lol.... have a new one in the pipeline ;):lol::lol::lol::lol:

I'll see if I can paint a target on the back of my car.Can't wait for sunday carnage :tire::nod::tire:

Rules and Regs plus Body Specs on second post..... Updated!!

There is a torana slr 5000 body at stan bridges hobbies under the makers name of eureka has anyone seen these and if so are they any good?

Thats the only one they make which looks remotely close.. Its made by Eureka in SA the part number is on the list I put up prior.. :D

Sorry dumb moment :o:o I guess they are similar to the guy on ebay with the monaro body and that awful torana

What type of chassis are you guys using in VTA? Is it the kind of thing where you need to have a relatively modern chassis to be in with a chance, or will basically anything work?

Shoo goo and plasterboard tape or liquid nails and plasterboard tape does wonders.I've repaired lots of bodies and it works well just starts getting too heavy after too many repairs but it's strong

Pretty much anything will work from what I have seen .. of course you always have your usual suspects but some of the boys are using everything from Sakura, Sparrowhawk and TC4 to Xray and Associated... As long as you can gear up to final drives between 3:5 to 2:5 youre OK... Having said that some cars like the Sakura have been known to be harder on front tyre wear but Ill let the owners handle that one rather than myself.. I personally use the Latest Edam E Spirit ... built tough competitive and as yet no parts required.. ;)

I use a 17 odd year old tamiya ta03f so anything can work if you can get the gearing but the associated tc4 club racer would be ideal if you don't have anything.My car is just starting to get set up well enough to be competetive but it's more about the fun than coming first

Sorry to go against you thee ruben but my speedpassion was only hitting high 40 yesterday with 2.9 for. And I wasn't happy with the punch. So I went back to 3.14 and it's great all round with low 40s. So this is one time I won't tune to temp. I've heard that 3.5 is an ideal fdr for speedpassion. I'll try this out on the weekend.

Thats OK Wookie.. you have to experiment and look at all the options... I have seen Peters car going round and its very cold... I made a sugestion thats all it was ;) mine is getting better the lower I go .. ;)

Thanks guys. I have been organising my old TF-5 RTR for running some silvercan for fun locally, but next time I come to Sydney some VTA tyres and a body might be in order... :)

Just got a stack of tyres come in.. We should be stocked up with body's next week.. You should also have a look on the net for some of the other manufacturers bodys too some are really cool... Im tracking one at the moment to update the list its a Chrysler Road Runner.. Yeeha Dukes of Hazard!! :D:sneaky:

Thanks for the tip and I might try 1 tooth up first at 3.05 but as I'm using 32 pitch gears 1 tooth either way makes more difference.My gear ratio now is 3.207 and doesn't have enough straight line speed compared to the other cars but I'll try both ratio's on sunday, corner speed and take off is good now though.Which version speed passion motor do you have?

run with anything that has 4 wheels and moves, was the mantra last night!

2 of the VTA's (mine and Matt J's) both had unplanned pit stops after we drove the wheels off our cars (chuckle), that or we forgot to do the wheel nuts up enough, i suspect it is the former as we wouldnt be that silly to do the latter would we :sneaky:

I was running a sakura zero with all the bling (solid front, aluminium bits n bobs), a set of fronts would be lucky to last 2 meetings. Tried everything, had the softest springs available but alas no luck.

A couple run silver cans and they work well, doesnt seem to matter if you have a brushless or not, especially when its spinning on its roof :lol:

Im going to bring camera down and get some pics of all the cars sunday :cool:

Look at ED he was faster with the 540 Silver can than the Brushless mind you he has to set up the Brushless yet.. but agreed run anything the fun is just too good to miss... ;) BTW I updated and found a new Pegassus Body for a 1964 Impala.. ;) Enjoy! :D

Can we also add
10196 Parma 61 Chevy Impala Body

to the list???

Yes dust off that old unloved rc car throw a set of vta tyres and body on it and join the fun.There's always someone in the pack of cars of a similar speed & skill to what you'll have :nod::nod::nod:

Done, I also found this one but from RC Car Kings only its an exclusive body #RAE719 - 1978 Smokey and the Bandit Pontiac ;)

SMA ACTION SHOTS VTA
 

Best Track Best Facilities Best Atmosphere thats SMA !! :D

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http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...41_7454cr2.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...h_D41_6002.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...h_D41_5773.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...aAmericana.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...h_D41_7563.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1..._IMG4840-M.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1..._IMG4834-M.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1..._IMG4832-M.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1..._IMG4783-M.jpghttp://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...IMG4844-XL.jpg

Is this were the old blokes hang out :lol:

Yeah Pahhhh!! Wheres Junior? ;):D:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

This is one I have not seen trackside yet looks great!!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...-2-697x465.jpg And this one is the RC Car Kings Smokey Pontiac
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...th_Bandit1.jpg

there was 1 last night went good

rube have a look at this
http://www.rccarkings.net/bodies.htm

Way ahead of you Ross cheers I added it to the list a while back.. was there one racing there last night was there ?? Dammit would have to be a night I didnt make it!! Any Pics I wonder??? Who was racing it??:cool:

Yes the Vette looked very cool on track last night ;)

The vette was being run by Matty M, he will be there on Sunday :p

hahahaha how did it go a few weeks ago

"old, poor reflexes and bad eyesight. . . . . . . "

Chris - you going to come out and play this sunday/tuesday? missing that vta of yours :sneaky::sneaky:

Awesome.. been thinking of doing one... Aero looks good for it.. Ill be there with Bellbottoms on.. :cool::p;)

Would HPI Part 7495 qualify as a VTA Body?

I have a couple of new bodys to paint up (68 and 69 Camaro and 77 Trans Am) and am looking for ideas paint wise, everyone in VTA locally seems to have gone red, I had been using the Parma Cuda Body and it handled ok (A LOT better than the J71) but looks like s#it!

Local VTA is 17.5 Blinky, no FDR limits, 1500 gram limit.

I have a full list of bodies on page 1 of the thread Nex.. The body you refer to is a GT not a Trans Am body these cars do not qualify as a VTA. Our track as per similar VTA rules in the US are 21.5 in the US they actually run 25.5 but these are not available here. Parma is also on the list on page 1 listed as per VTA rules.. hope this helps..:cool:

On a personal note it would be good to see clubs adopt a uniform rule set that closely resembles the US so that we can all cross participate at any club and all be on a fair and equal playing field.. In the US and several other countries the class has taken off due to the fact that the class is uniform cheap and a great fun class..

Here is the Body list again for anyone that hasnt trawled through the first couple of pages...

HERE ARE Some Body's and part numbers available for VTA from various manufacturers

Bolink part numbers:
BL2262 '68 Chevrolet Camaro
Also known as RJ Speed Part # BOL2262

BL2263 '65 Ford Mustang
Also known as RJ Speed Part # BOL2263

HPI part numbers:
17510 - 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda
7494 - 1968 Chevrolet Camaro
17531 - 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28
17508 - 1965 Ford Shelby GT-350
17519 - 1966 Ford Mustang GT
104926 - 1966 FORD MUSTANG GT COUPE BODY
105106 - 1970 DODGE CHALLENGER BODY
100639 - 1967 CHEV CORVETTE -Painted Black Body
100473 - 1967 CHEV CORVETTE -Painted Blue Body
NEW 107201 -1978 PONTIAC TRANS AM Body

Note:
For the HPI Mustangs which are not provided with a spoiler:
A lexan spoiler of 16mm total height from trunk deck, and overall chord of 20mm is allowable. All other bodies must use the spoiler included with that specific body set. Built in spoilers may not be enhanced. 17546 - 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 (scale wing ok)

Parma part numbers:
10196 - Parma 61 Chevy Impala Body
10143 - 1969 Z28 Camaro
10141 - 1970 Boss Mustang
10113 - 1970 'Cuda

Pegasus Hobbies part numbers:
PGH4000 - 1964 Chev Impala
PGH4001 - 1970 Camaro SS
PGH4002 - 1970 'Cuda
PGH4003 - 1970 Mustang

Protoform part numbers:
#1526 - J71 CAMARO

McAllister Racing part numbers:
#286- 1969 Mustang body

RC CAR KINGS
#RAE719 - 1978 Smokey and the Bandit Pontiac

Great Vigor
#210119 - Holden XU1 Torana

Exclusive Collectibles
#2006B - Ford XY GTHO Red
#2010B - Ford XY GTHO Gold

EUREKA
#MUSCLE5 - Holden SLR 5000

SMA Rules to date
 

These are the rules we employ at SMA for Vintage Trans AM.

Chassis Specification:
Any 1/10 4wd or Fwd sedan with 4 wheel independent suspension.

Weight Specification:
1500g weight

Body Specifications:
Any 190mm or 200mm body. 1960 to 79 Either HPI or Others suitable, SMA has made variation to include Australian Muscle.. Stock Car, Slanted GT or modern Japanese Bodies or any body post 1980's do NOT comply....

Tire & Wheel Specifications:
Tires-Any treaded HPI Vintage #4793 Fronts # 4797 Rears
Wheels- Any HPI Vintage 26 Front 32 Rear Example #3815 Fronts #3820 Rears

Five or Eight spoke wheels available in various colors. 0mm offset front wheels and 6mm offset rear wheels are intended for 26mm width fronts and 31mm width rear tires. 8-spoke Vintage wheels from #3805 through #3814, 5-spoke Vintage wheels from #3815 through #3822 and Vintage stock car wheels from #3854 through #3860, Vintage Wheel CC Type #33472 and #33473, Vintage Wheel DTP Type #33474 and #33475 are all legal wheels.

Ride Height Specification:
Minimum ride height is 5mm.

Motor Specifications:
21.5 + 2s lipo batteries No tuning rotors, must use OEM rotor 12.3-12.5mm (Motor itself can have timing as per approved 21.5 list)

Approved ESCs:
No Timing Just Stock or Blinky ESC ROAR approved spec software or USVTA list

Race Specification:
5 minute qualifiers
5 minute mains

Battery Specifications:
ROAR approved hard case batteries

I agree that a national set of rules for VTA in Australia would be great, the track I run at is an ex Nitro track so it's quite large (had the Nats there last yr) so to run a 21.5 there would probably result in many of us falling asleep (but if a natural rule set was adopted and we followed suit I'd gladly change over), unlikely you'd ever have to let off the throttle. That said on 17.5 tyre wear is much more pronounced, a set of fronts will last you maybe 2-3 club days.