A 21.5 properly geared using the right motor is not to be snuffed... and wear /cost for this class is also a big factor max fun minimal cost approach hence its appeal... Tyre wear on mine for instance and same reported by many drivers is between 6 and 9 race meets. I actually find the fronts wear more than rear 2-1 perhaps even 3-1. They also perform better as they wear however having said that they are shite on wet tracks... :D

With bigger tracks where possible it may be the case that perhaps you have a cut through that can be used to make the track slightly smaller producing more competitive racing.. our track although large is more specific to 1/10 and offers us many combinations that we can run to make it optimal length or minimal depending on what we need...;)

Rube, at Castle Hill on Friday nights we're starting to get a VTA class up and running too.
The rules & guidelines are pretty much the same as what you have put in here, mostly relating to car types, weight, motors, esc's, tires, body shells etc.
There's nothing set in stone as yet as we are evaluating what people would like within the class but I dare say it'll be similar to what you have put here.

Another thought with the VTA class is for the length of time for the races, with pretty much everyone having decent high capacity lipo batteries maybe consider extending the time from 5 mins to 6 mins, maybe even more for a final?

Not so long ago I got myself a Dodge Challenger shell but part of the sticker sheet had come loose and was sticking to itself. The rear bumper sticker was trashed along with the rear trim around the tail lights, I was able to carefully rescue the tail light one thankfully.
Seeing your paint design on your Dodge gave me a little inspiration on how to do a paint job that looked good without having the rear chrome bumper sticker. Not shown in the pictures is a Hobbyking set of car led's that I picked up for about $5 and installed them in the car which has earned it the nick name of "Sparkles" at the track.

http://www.users.on.net/~robwr68/Dodge1.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~robwr68/Dodge2.jpg

Cheers
Rob.

That looks SWEET Rob, very nice.

Punchy Pete has some front lights installed and they look great at night, am considering some for mine after seeing them :D

I went red and black on the 68 Camaro, and have to say its a tad awkward to see at night, way over in the distance, that and i got a little mixed up with all the red cars :weird:

Next one going to be sky blue and white maybe

+1
any faster and these beasties wouldnt be stopping/turning to well with the tyres and weight.

Aww come on rubes, it was called "drifting" on the wet track:lol::lol:
best race had in ages that day:sneaky:

greek god
 

:tire:Hi guys in VTA land we in Bendigo got 10 cars at our last metting from dogde
mustangs and carmaros and cudas and the class is growing next meeting we will have a 67 corvette.

We run 6 mins heats and 8 mins finals as they do in the states but the 8 mins is getting looked at .

We are having a classic wich will be the RAB bendigo classic and we are having VTA as a class so come an race and enjoy the RAB classic is on the 23th--24th of june see you there.:nod:

Agreed, on 17.5 Blinky with a FDR around 3.5-4 left to right balance and chassis flex play a significant part. Any of the older chassis with Nimh cut outs I was finding to be very inconsistant and prone to oversteer.

Lookin good Rob like my Green one but different lol :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yeah look mate the Time thing is really a club decission Id personally love 6 min heats 8 or even 10 min finals but I dont really want to touch that one because lets say Tuesday night racing is pretty pressed as it is trying to get out before midnight.. If you get an extraordinary night and you get those where you may have upto three heats of one class then adding the extra mins can make the whole meeting run way over..

On our track this may be possible for Sunday day meats where its more relaxed etc.. But I hear ya.. :nod: With regards to current rules I did say the ones I put up were roughly the ones accepted by most clubs and agree they are not set in stone but I would say for a number of good reasons we should stick to 21.5 any more then you would have to bend the rules into an area where we have seen many times turns to a shit fight... any faster your wheels will become an issue hence you then change the rim tyre rule then there is the issue that faster may mean excluding budget type chassis for higher end that would then exclude some people who would otherwise already have something to throw down and have fum.. Breakages become more it then spirals out.. IMO this should stay a fun class where Joe Blow out there has a chassis that will do with some TLC he can get it on and have fun with the rest.. again my opinion only .. Im just getting fed up with classes that start out as fun then turn into "Well if you dont use that oil this chassis that motor these foams on your tyres see ya later ' .. Love the cuda mate youre a man after my own heart...:nod::nod::nod::nod::D

Awesome good to see you guys out there .. would love an opportunity to race with you guys either state .. please get some pics and post em here for all us VTA freeks to drool over keep up the good work ;)

Same with the races on Fri nights, the racing at times is pushed through rather quickly and I can fully understand why as some people don't go home till late after a very long day of work etc. I'm fortunate in a way that I have some free time to help setup and pack away things away for those that do the organising, but not everyone has this liberty.
Maybe something like the above could be done on a night/day that doesn't have as many entries but for now what we have is still great too. :nod:

And I agree with the 21.5 motor guidline as this means others that race 21.5 blinky TC can basically change body shell & tires with out too much change to the car except for roll out etc. Along with the fact being the faster you go the quicker and harder you hit something and possibly break something very important. (Us more mature racers don't have as good reflexes as we used to :D )

As for chassis, I'm using a TA05 that I bought off Nexxus. A couple of weeks ago I ran it in 21.5 TC blinky at the 2nd round of Challenge Cup at Illawarra.
After changing the rims/tires & body shell I raced it as a VTA car with very little if any changes to the car. :D

Cheers
Rob.

Thats the thing I love bout the class you can make just about aything go well... should come down Sunday for a friendly timed prac run... I have to get my but there on a friday one of these days too.... :D Yep reflexes aint what they used to be thats fer sure... :sneaky::sweat:

That's just the way I had it set up for you :D

Rubes and others that run VTA at Tempe
Why don't we try the 6 minute qualifying and 8 minute Final at the race day on Sunday 6th May.

Have to agree that making the Tuesday night races any longer will be pushing it. Running race control with the amount of people we have had lately is awkward enough with 5minutes, and it is turning into a late night.

I really don't see that anyone will have a problem on the Sundays extending the race times, especially as Matt M and myself are running race control. But, so that everyone knows, we are having a committee meeting on Monday and i will bring it up at committee, think it is fair that they have a voice in this as well. How does everyone feel about it?

Also i think that the Sunday VTA racing is possibly the best way to go, as the Tuesday numbers are up and down, and it really is getting to be a late night with all the classes we run at SMA.

If there are enough of us at practice on Sunday, we can all have a chat about the VTA format, i can type it up and take any proposals we decide to the meeting on Monday, and feed back through here or via phone.

What are your thoughts?

I would love to race longer times.I would run 10-15 minute races if I could.6 min qualifying and 8 min mains sound great to me also sunday vta works best for me but every second sunday might be offroad rally weather dependent

Mate like I said doing it Tuesdays will be very hard as we run till close to midnight on normal race meats let alone big ones.. Sundays I agree best time for it we can not only do longer heats and finals for VTA but the Mini guys and F1's might like it also... All for it you know me Ill run whatever for as long as anyone wants till my motor blows or I get tapped on the shoulder by security lmao :p:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lo l::lol::lol::cool:

Dont ever change Pete, thats why I love ya ;)

Here's video from the trans am series you might enjoy- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn0OOSQPXT8
Also Allan Moffat's 69 trans am mustang in car footage- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYLrd7LS6zI

gotta love the amount of wheel work moffat is doing:D

looks like he needed to grow an extra half a foot to get some of them gears

thanks pete great posts:nod::nod::nod::nod:

Wait till you see my Moffatt Number 9 Coca Cola ;) Excellent video....

By the way Rumor has it that SOMEONE will debut the Pontiac 79 on Sunday!!! :batman::cool::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire::tire:

I also have confirmation the A9X is mere weeks away :D

excellent cant wait to see it, will have the camera there as well, so methinks a grand VTA lineup pic is on the cards

rubedude: if you remember, can you chuck in a set of front vta tyres and rims for me and will fix you up Sunday at SMA

matt b

sorry i can't make it this sunday

All we need is a torana or two and a gtho or two for a perfect looking muscle car race.Can't wait for sunday fun :tire::nod::tire:

Sorry we do not accept Sorry as an excuse please think of another and try again!! :batman::sneaky:

Im down for a couple A9X Bodies as soon as they come in.. that was my first real car and dont I regret selling it! :sneaky:

No problem Gungadine!! ;) I might take my cam also get various angles ..

The only thing About funning for 8mins is the mtrs getting hot I run a team powers 21.5 with a older LRP SCX speedy no boost and its quick

Longer qualifying and finals for VTA and F1 for Sundays sounds good to me:nod::):tire:

Heard good things about the Team Powers.. have to try one!!

+ YouTube Video

Better come down Sunday dude ;)

Sounds great and if it gets the go ahead, can we please do the same for F1 on Sunday's as well?

Last Sunday's meet went by so quickly even with the 2 qualifying and 2 finals format. There is no great rush to finish up on a Sunday and it is a great way to make it stand out from the "all business" Tuesday nights.

Have to agree, it went by quick, thats why we had the 5/10min break between rounds.
We are "tweaking" how Sundays run as we go, but the biggest thing is numbers, the lower numbers on Sunday (last) helped to make it quicker.

Until MuchMore Masters the club is trying the 11am gates open, but this may change to a 10am Gates open in the future.

Not sure about F1 running longer, i don't have a problem with it, will talk to the F1 guys Sunday (if they are there) and will do the same next Tuesday night to get the feel for it.

Cheers
Matt B

the one VTA that i really really want:sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky::sneaky:

HEY CHARGER!

Damn straight! My old man had a few Valiants when I was growing up, they friggin flew! Wouldn't mind an old XA-XC Falcon Coupe shell either.

How do you guys go with Marshalls for VTA? Last race meet we had modified racers marshalling a 5 min race and it just seemed like they viewed the class with contempt, marshalling was too much bother for them, certainly no urgency in retrieving a car, so I don't think we'd ever get to 8-10 min races without giving them a pillow and a cup of joe.

I only ask as VTA drivers marshall other classes and I know that myself, I try and make an effort (as much as someone on heart meds can) so it's frustrating to see an able bodied mod driver simply not be bothered to do the right thing because it's a class they appear to look down on.

I dont seem to find Marshaling an issue at SMA personally, you do from time to time see slow marshals but I think we have all been caught out now and then daydreaming.. Generally speaking over many years the elitist drivers can and at times do look down on a "So called" lower class but I think that says a lot more about them than the class. Also the "Elitist Driver" exists in several classes, these guys generally want to win at all cost and are very self centered they dont only exist in Mod.. But our guys I must say are pretty good..

At the end of the day whether you drive Mod or Mini they are still scale cars when its all said and done and those who lose sight of why we are there to begin with ..Well I feel sorry for them.. There is nothing like coming home with a silly grin on your face knowing you just spent a few hours racing with your mates having a good time with all the banter that goes with it.. The spirit of why we do it .. Mind you being the last race on Tuesdays can be a task for some it would be good to alternate now and then ;):nod::nod:

Agreed +1 In Orange RT e38 style!! :nod:

What Roll out and FDR are most you guys using out there? and what chassis are you guys running at the moment??:spidey:

I've got my 416X setup for VTA at the moment. Hasn't had a run for a few weeks, so I can't remember the gearing off the top of my head. I did fit the 6mm hex hubs so the tyres could clear the steering links. ;)

Would love to run it more often, but between CC rounds and trying to get the F1 working for MMM, there hasn't been a lot of time :cry:

No worries mate there will be plenty of time after the MuchMores ;) 416's seem to go very well for VTA.. Im running the E-Spirit Edam car very happy with it still experimenting ... 44/63 Gearing final drive now is 2.8..:D

TA05 Ver2 with Exotek chassis, Hobbywing 21.5 with a 69 roll out.

Cheers
Rob.

How do you find the Hobby wing motor mate? Have you got the combo or just motor/esc etc?? ...

I got the Hobbywing Combo with a Xtreme stock 60A esc.
To be honest both the esc & motor surpassed my expectations, I originally went for the combo as a cheap setup for my VTA car. The esc does have a smooth feeling to it and the motor is a beast with an abundance of torque to run the high roll outs. :)

Cheers
Rob.

Good to hear Im bringing them in should be here in a week or two... Cant wait for this Sunday at SMA.. if you have nothing better to do come down and race with us... Can get a burger a steak and a drink from the Club Kitchen and some fun racing mate what more can one ask for ??? :nod::nod::D:cool:

CALLING ALL VTA DRIVERS IN SYDNEY!!

If your thinking of an excuse think of a better one!! :sneaky:

Anyone who feels like a good race Sunday timed at SMA come down and join us.. Lets get some huge numbers for the cameras and the banter afterwards... Gate open at 11AM .. You can get food and drinks from the club at great prices.... Cost I think is 10 bucks.. Matt smack me if thats wrong but come down and have some fun in the sun... ;):cool:

Pussy excuses include but not limited to;
* My Missus wont let me (Harden UP)
* I would but need to set my car (Lazy sod just fix it)
* Id love to but I have to take the kids to soccer (Thats what you have wives for)
* Id love to but I like to sleep in ( Ill come round with a size 11 Boot)

if you can bring me some AE 5mm ball studs i will be there.

They the TC5 One??
If so I think I can help how many you need???