Aarcmcc Rules
#31
Originally Posted by The Nun
Here is a smart question for the AARCMACC backward committee.
I have just noticed your rules and I really think you guys need a reality check you are shoving rules down peoples throats when if you only sat back and realised what is modified. In your rules you can’t do this and you can’t do that you are not allowed to do this and you are not allowed to do that. If you have half a brain between you guys Modified means MODIFIED. That’s why we go from stock to modify for the power. So would you please rename the Modified class to the AARCMACC girl’s class? It seems like you guys have to control what motors people can and cannot buy. So at the end of the day Modified means you can modify in any shape or form.
The Nun knows.
I have just noticed your rules and I really think you guys need a reality check you are shoving rules down peoples throats when if you only sat back and realised what is modified. In your rules you can’t do this and you can’t do that you are not allowed to do this and you are not allowed to do that. If you have half a brain between you guys Modified means MODIFIED. That’s why we go from stock to modify for the power. So would you please rename the Modified class to the AARCMACC girl’s class? It seems like you guys have to control what motors people can and cannot buy. So at the end of the day Modified means you can modify in any shape or form.
The Nun knows.
In fact some of the motor specifications / rules have hardly changed in at least 10 years... for good reason...
#32
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Originally Posted by Davo
Hi,
Who would actually press a fuel tank inwards and let alone heat it?
Who would actually press a fuel tank inwards and let alone heat it?

#34
Just a quick question ( and I relise, probably a pointless one)...
Why do the rules still refer to bodies having to be reminiscent of bodies used in the various "super touring" categories from around the world?
Super Touring as a racing formula died, even in its most popular countries around 5 years ago... the closest relavant formula would be the new World Touring Cars... add to that the fact that most of the popular bodies made by Protoform etc, and used by the worlds drivers (Mazda 6, Stratus 2.0 and 3.0, Chrysler 300M etc) were NEVER raced in the necessary series' (and yes I DO know the orginal Stratus was in the U.S).
Of the current popular or available bodies, I think only the Alfa 156 body is, or has, actually raced... Volvo did race S40's in super touring but no one has one available as far as I am aware and the S60 has only been raced in the WTCC and is no longer competing in 2005... none of the more recently available Honda or BMW bodies appear to be based on applicable race cars... and bodies like the Cadillac CTS-R come from SCCA series' in America which bear no real resemblance to anything anywhere except possibly to the current GT2 class as specified by tha ACO for Le Mans!!!! (the Caddy might also fit into DTM according to some articals I have read)...
The Stratus 2.0, 3.0 and Chrysler 300M appear to be design exercises made by companies such as Protoform, based on the available road cars, not actual race cars (there may be something in the SCCA series' though I cannot find any evidence of this)... and the last offical record of a car named a 300M competing in any racing series was in NASCAR in the 1950's!!
Anyway... after all that... It seems odd to me to have a rule that has references to a racing formula/s that are no longer relevant and not even enforced... much more practical (and probably how its done 99% of the time anyway) would possibly be to have a list of approved bodies and do away with the whole super touring reference
Also... what is the current status of brushless and where it can run? does it just run against brushed motors in the same class?
(OK so it wasn't so quick
)
Why do the rules still refer to bodies having to be reminiscent of bodies used in the various "super touring" categories from around the world?
Super Touring as a racing formula died, even in its most popular countries around 5 years ago... the closest relavant formula would be the new World Touring Cars... add to that the fact that most of the popular bodies made by Protoform etc, and used by the worlds drivers (Mazda 6, Stratus 2.0 and 3.0, Chrysler 300M etc) were NEVER raced in the necessary series' (and yes I DO know the orginal Stratus was in the U.S).
Of the current popular or available bodies, I think only the Alfa 156 body is, or has, actually raced... Volvo did race S40's in super touring but no one has one available as far as I am aware and the S60 has only been raced in the WTCC and is no longer competing in 2005... none of the more recently available Honda or BMW bodies appear to be based on applicable race cars... and bodies like the Cadillac CTS-R come from SCCA series' in America which bear no real resemblance to anything anywhere except possibly to the current GT2 class as specified by tha ACO for Le Mans!!!! (the Caddy might also fit into DTM according to some articals I have read)...
The Stratus 2.0, 3.0 and Chrysler 300M appear to be design exercises made by companies such as Protoform, based on the available road cars, not actual race cars (there may be something in the SCCA series' though I cannot find any evidence of this)... and the last offical record of a car named a 300M competing in any racing series was in NASCAR in the 1950's!!
Anyway... after all that... It seems odd to me to have a rule that has references to a racing formula/s that are no longer relevant and not even enforced... much more practical (and probably how its done 99% of the time anyway) would possibly be to have a list of approved bodies and do away with the whole super touring reference
Also... what is the current status of brushless and where it can run? does it just run against brushed motors in the same class?
(OK so it wasn't so quick
)
#38
Why do the rules still refer to bodies having to be reminiscent of bodies used in the various "super touring" categories from around the world?
The actual rule is above, and yes it could proberly do with a brush up.
But the last line of the rule is what mainly counts. The reference to "world touring cars series" is to keep the body manufactures in having some realism to there looks as they should be based off a real car, which as we know has become a little vague at times as manufactures have leaned towards the performance side (even Tamiya these days).
A body list can be a good idea, but which one do we use? who will maintain it to cover recently released bodies on the world market? will the scrutineers be able to identify the bodies in use when it is a struggle to get clubs to have scrutineering of an acceptable level?
#41
Originally Posted by fastolfart
thejewishone,
I sent you a PM on the 5/10/05, you will have to contact the persons or club I mentioned. Let me know if you want me to resend it.
I sent you a PM on the 5/10/05, you will have to contact the persons or club I mentioned. Let me know if you want me to resend it.
Sorry about that.
Thanks for the info and i will keep an eye on it there.




