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kingpops 02-20-2009 12:19 AM

Thanks guys;) I completely understand your descripton Atomix-great minds must think alike!

1rcracer 03-04-2009 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by crabboy (Post 5437871)
Hi Buddy, im just in the process of conveting my spare car to short wheel base, im running 36t pulleys, standard centre pulleys with the standard front belt and a Tamiya 415 rear belt, you have to move the rear shock tower on the front side of the bulk head, when mine is complete i will post some pics.

Rhys

Hey Crabboy... when can we expect the pic :spidey:

crabboy 03-04-2009 05:13 AM

Will post some pics up tomorrow night, I ran the car on the weekend with some very positive results.

Our track is very low grip (netball court) and i usually use Much More 32's but the car had better overall traction/grip and I was able to run Much More 36's, the setup stayed the same as before the only change was to the short wheel base.

Rhys

1rcracer 03-04-2009 02:42 PM

hey dude... good to hear the run was a success...

so at the end of it all... which way/method did u use to make the car SWB ?

was either belt tight ?

crabboy 03-06-2009 05:32 AM

Hi buddy, sorry but i have run out of time with getting the car ready for a TFTR run this weekend, when i get back, will put up some pics and a report how the car goes.

Rhys



Originally Posted by 1rcracer (Post 5510377)
hey dude... good to hear the run was a success...

so at the end of it all... which way/method did u use to make the car SWB ?

was either belt tight ?


crabboy 03-10-2009 03:47 AM

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hi heres the pics of the 36t pulley short wheel base car as promised

sagejyoung 03-10-2009 06:08 AM

great pics of the car man. i can see in the middle pic that you ran the two spacers on the shaft of the A arm? wouldnt that legnthen the wheel base? also could you suggest a 540 setup? i'm keen to get the perfect for now then move up to other classes..

sagejyoung 03-10-2009 06:15 AM

also do the black bulkheads make you go faster? :batman::sneaky: :nod:

aus jd 2703 03-10-2009 02:20 PM

hey guys whats your opinion on front hubs as far as i can tell there are 4 versions,
aluminium with bearings
aluminium with bushings
aluminium for narrow
plastic stock
ok so i destroyed 2 plastic ones, i spoke to a fellow corally driver and said get the aluminium hubs cuse although i would break arms, the arms are stronger then the stock hubs, is this true?
secondly which hub is best? when will corally aus have them in stock? (currently only aluminium narrow and kit plastic in stock)
cheers guys

OLD 69 03-10-2009 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by aus jd 2703 (Post 5535071)
hey guys whats your opinion on front hubs as far as i can tell there are 4 versions,
aluminium with bearings
aluminium with bushings
aluminium for narrow
plastic stock
ok so i destroyed 2 plastic ones, i spoke to a fellow corally driver and said get the aluminium hubs cuse although i would break arms, the arms are stronger then the stock hubs, is this true?
secondly which hub is best? when will corally aus have them in stock? (currently only aluminium narrow and kit plastic in stock)
cheers guys

Josh, i personally run the alloy blocks with bushings. Either Alloy blocks with Bushing or Bearing will work fine. Yes they are much stronger than plastic blocks, i have NEVER broken an alloy set. BUT something has to give, so you will end up breaking arms instead. Good thing is Arms are a little stronger than plastic steering blocks.

www.teamcorally.com.au will have them in approx 10 days.

Regards
Ari

Atomix 03-10-2009 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by aus jd 2703 (Post 5535071)
hey guys whats your opinion on front hubs as far as i can tell there are 4 versions,
aluminium with bearings
aluminium with bushings
aluminium for narrow
plastic stock
ok so i destroyed 2 plastic ones, i spoke to a fellow corally driver and said get the aluminium hubs cuse although i would break arms, the arms are stronger then the stock hubs, is this true?
secondly which hub is best? when will corally aus have them in stock? (currently only aluminium narrow and kit plastic in stock)
cheers guys

I have the original alloy set of knuckles from my 1st RDX (non phi) from 2004 and they are still going strong. I have had to replace a failed bearing once, but otherwise the alloy knuckles are extremely durable. Bear in mind that if you get the alloy 'narrow' type, you will also need different cvd parts.

The plastic ones are good but i find that even though I havent broken them, I tend to replace them as there is a bit of 'play' that develops where the kingpin sits in the top and bottom of the plastic knuckle.

A Ilievski 03-10-2009 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by sagejyoung (Post 5533401)
great pics of the car man. i can see in the middle pic that you ran the two spacers on the shaft of the A arm? wouldnt that legnthen the wheel base? also could you suggest a 540 setup? i'm keen to get the perfect for now then move up to other classes..

Running the spacers in the front of the arm will lengthen the car but still gives the car a shorter wheel base then the kit form...

I will start playing around the the narrow wheelbase and see how i like it.

As for a set up with 540. Id sudgest kit set up. My set ups for stock that i have varie little to that of kit set up.

Also as for a choice with the alloy knuckles, as both Ari and Tomic said you can go with the knuckles with either bearings or brushes. They are strong but the impact gets tranfered to the arms. Which i found out at windsor :lol:. If you go with the narrow knuckles you will need the shorter cv'ds. If im not mistaken the new 09 Phi comes with the narrow knuckles and shorter cvd's???. They are meant to provide more steering. But i found the phi to have plenty as is.

If you decide to go with the narrow alloy knuckles. Let me know as i have a brand new set that i wont be using.

sagejyoung 03-11-2009 12:05 AM

sure, sounds about right.

where do you think i should look if the car is understeering? i going to make changes one at a time and see the effect of each.... i have rebulit the shock (they had not been for a while) and also i have managed to adjust ride hieght to 5mm front and 5.5 back... we run on foams/asphalt... here in SA and have a national race soon any help would be appreciated..

Atomix 03-11-2009 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by sagejyoung (Post 5537392)
sure, sounds about right.

where do you think i should look if the car is understeering? i going to make changes one at a time and see the effect of each.... i have rebulit the shock (they had not been for a while) and also i have managed to adjust ride hieght to 5mm front and 5.5 back... we run on foams/asphalt... here in SA and have a national race soon any help would be appreciated..

When you say understeering, anywhere in particular...corner entry, exit, mid?

Given that you will run foam on Asphalt, personally, id be trying different tyre compounds first. What Front and Rear shore are you using? I found that with foam, it doesnt matter how good your setup is, if you are on the wrong shore rating you wont get the most out of it.

sagejyoung 03-11-2009 03:39 AM

ja i run 35 all round, i have looked at the xray setup guide and there is some information on there, i would say its mid corner understeer....


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