Serpent 705
08-22-2003, 01:31 PM
#3256
Tech Master
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Originally posted by InitialD
Actually, I should mention that the mod I did is not the same as the one done on Ralph's car. As you can see, the rear upper arms on Ralph's car is mounted more towards the center of the chassis thus making for "longer" suspension arms.
I made mine just to be able to vary the rear trackwidth of the car.
Actually, I should mention that the mod I did is not the same as the one done on Ralph's car. As you can see, the rear upper arms on Ralph's car is mounted more towards the center of the chassis thus making for "longer" suspension arms.
I made mine just to be able to vary the rear trackwidth of the car.
I did notice that too!!!
Good to see you pay attention to detail.
Somehow, my funny bone tells me you have one
Any pics to show before the beautiful chassis gets scared?
How much did you get it for?
Any pics to show before the beautiful chassis gets scared? How much did you get it for?
YEAH, I'll try to take some pics before a scratch gets on it!
I cant tell you how much I got it for.......It might get peeps on here jealous.
08-22-2003, 01:51 PM
#3257
Originally posted by InitialD
Which other part are you refering to?
The thing is the 705 is still able to match these current new cars in the market that are already equipped with low CG parts like lowered engine mounts, laid down steering servo and a more efficient 0.8 module gearbox. I would only imagine what it would be like when the next generation Serpent tourer is equipped with those goodies
Which other part are you refering to?
The thing is the 705 is still able to match these current new cars in the market that are already equipped with low CG parts like lowered engine mounts, laid down steering servo and a more efficient 0.8 module gearbox. I would only imagine what it would be like when the next generation Serpent tourer is equipped with those goodies
But I do agree that the new Serpent will be the car to beat.To be honest, the MTX3 doesnt register here with our vastly heavier 705's and as for all the hype on the R40, it was only the usual bad luck for Josh Cyrul that allowed it to win the US Nats. The cars design is good but it is just too heavy. But once the hop-ups start flowing on it and the weight comes down it will be a lot more competitive and Mugen will be the ones getting left behind for a change.
08-22-2003, 02:23 PM
#3258
Re: For Proficar403
Originally posted by InitialD
The distance of the ball cups to the center of the servo mounting hole is 18 mm.
The distance of the ball cups to the center of the servo mounting hole is 18 mm.
08-22-2003, 02:36 PM
#3259
Tech Regular
Originally posted by PUNISHER
I did notice that too!!!
Good to see you pay attention to detail.
YEAH, I'll try to take some pics before a scratch gets on it!
I cant tell you how much I got it for.......It might get peeps on here jealous.
I did notice that too!!!
Good to see you pay attention to detail.
YEAH, I'll try to take some pics before a scratch gets on it!
I cant tell you how much I got it for.......It might get peeps on here jealous.
I'll be screw if anyone want at that price you get!!! Keep it to yourself buddy...
08-22-2003, 09:40 PM
#3261
thanks, InitialD. It turnes out that the servo saver I had was messing with my steering ackerman. I put a new serpent servo saver on and my handling easily increased.
BTW...I have seen other dealers lower the price on the 950 just to clear the way for an updated version. The new version will include the lightweight clutch bell and other minor things that I forget.
Also BTW...If any of you have trouble getting serpent parts,
call 1-866-NITRORC (toll free). Very good prices, availability, and prompt shipping. He has a pretty decent selection of tires, serpent/mugen/ae parts, engines, and sometimes carries kits. Also at gasrccar.com
BTW...I have seen other dealers lower the price on the 950 just to clear the way for an updated version. The new version will include the lightweight clutch bell and other minor things that I forget.
Also BTW...If any of you have trouble getting serpent parts,
call 1-866-NITRORC (toll free). Very good prices, availability, and prompt shipping. He has a pretty decent selection of tires, serpent/mugen/ae parts, engines, and sometimes carries kits. Also at gasrccar.com
08-23-2003, 03:27 AM
#3262
705 awesome
Originally posted by PUNISHER
I like my Snake how it is right now!!
No problem beating other cars without those other goodies!!
I like my Snake how it is right now!!
No problem beating other cars without those other goodies!!
08-23-2003, 05:10 PM
#3263
Tech Regular
I like my Snake how it is right now!!
08-25-2003, 04:22 AM
#3265
Originally posted by InitialD
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Ummm, I don't know but with all the hopla about low CG this and that, the 705 still spanks the competition in the Euros and nearly spanks the rest at the recent Roar Nats if not for the many flips that Ralph had. Talk about old design my a$$ ... No doubt Team Serpent has one of the best drivers in the world but when you're at that level of competition, everyone is a world beater.
<SNIP>
<SNIP>
Ummm, I don't know but with all the hopla about low CG this and that, the 705 still spanks the competition in the Euros and nearly spanks the rest at the recent Roar Nats if not for the many flips that Ralph had. Talk about old design my a$$
... No doubt Team Serpent has one of the best drivers in the world but when you're at that level of competition, everyone is a world beater.<SNIP>
Absolutely agree on the low CG hoopla point, but if Ralph had some of that lower CG hoopla, maybe he wouldn't have flipped so many times - just a thought, you understand.
While on the subject of low CG hoopla, I measured the engine mounts of our new V-One R Evolution. They are exactly the same height as the original V-One R - plenty of hoopla, there.
The moral of this story is that the likes of Ralph and his peers could TQ a motorised skateboard . . . . or even a R40, maybe.
08-25-2003, 04:39 AM
#3266
Tech Adept
InitialD, any comments regarding your expierence with repositioned front upper arms?
08-25-2003, 05:07 AM
#3267
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Pardon me for butting in, but . . .
Pardon me for butting in, but . . .
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Absolutely agree on the low CG hoopla point, but if Ralph had some of that lower CG hoopla, maybe he wouldn't have flipped so many times - just a thought, you understand.
Absolutely agree on the low CG hoopla point, but if Ralph had some of that lower CG hoopla, maybe he wouldn't have flipped so many times - just a thought, you understand.
Perhaps... But he was actually wanted to achieve more steering that he overdid it... He was using 37 shore front and 35 shore rear tires with no front and rear sway bars connected. Michael Salven went one up when he did not used front sway bars (only in the rears) for the Euros... Perhaps they somehow communicated with each other that weekend While Michael was successful with the no sway bars stunt, Ralph was unfortunate. Changes in the track conditions (temperature went down) made Ralph's car traction rolled.
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
While on the subject of low CG hoopla, I measured the engine mounts of our new V-One R Evolution. They are exactly the same height as the original V-One R - plenty of hoopla, there.
While on the subject of low CG hoopla, I measured the engine mounts of our new V-One R Evolution. They are exactly the same height as the original V-One R - plenty of hoopla, there.
The 2 speed gearbox 0.8 modules are also part of the enhancement. I believe roll center of the car is also altered by the different suspension arms.
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
The moral of this story is that the likes of Ralph and his peers could TQ a motorised skateboard . . . . or even a R40, maybe.
The moral of this story is that the likes of Ralph and his peers could TQ a motorised skateboard . . . . or even a R40, maybe.
Both drivers and cars were at the highest level. Every team was well represented at the race... Except perhaps Kyosho wasn't. The title was open to anybody and that explains why Ralph did not win this time.Talking about the R40, noticed how small Hara used his tires?
08-25-2003, 05:21 AM
#3268
Originally posted by johan
InitialD, any comments regarding your expierence with repositioned front upper arms?
InitialD, any comments regarding your expierence with repositioned front upper arms?
Bad luck of engine flaming out (twice) in the first heat and the front belt snapping in the second heat put me out of contention
Third heat? Well, too much slow traffic that saw me getting irritated and as a consequence of my impatience, I flipped over and flamed out (again) just before the transponder line and 30 seconds before the 5 minute heat was over
Anyway, so much for my rant
The car performed excellent all round. Perhaps a little bit of on power steering was what I needed. But the car with the smaller rear trackwidth (200 mm) turned in better. I was previously using more than 200 mm rear trackwidth with -4 rear camber. I felt the car was faster in the in fields and chicanes and surprisingly the car could still brake hard and stabile with a one way front and the stock rear ball diffs... Not that I'm complaining but this is something which I cannot explain.Oh yes, I choose to use a Protoform Stratus 2.1 TC shell against the vast competition that used Lola shell bodies on the high speed track and I am quite proud to say that I held the same pace with them
In fact I could have been faster if not for the traffic
08-25-2003, 05:41 AM
#3269
Originally posted by InitialD
Checking out on my post?
Checking out on my post?
Heheh, good one Perhaps... But he was actually wanted to achieve more steering that he overdid it... He was using 37 shore front and 35 shore rear tires with no front and rear sway bars connected. Michael Salven went one up when he did not used front sway bars (only in the rears) for the Euros... Perhaps they somehow communicated with each other that weekend While Michael was successful with the no sway bars stunt, Ralph was unfortunate. Changes in the track conditions (temperature went down) made Ralph's car traction rolled.
Perhaps... But he was actually wanted to achieve more steering that he overdid it... He was using 37 shore front and 35 shore rear tires with no front and rear sway bars connected. Michael Salven went one up when he did not used front sway bars (only in the rears) for the Euros... Perhaps they somehow communicated with each other that weekend While Michael was successful with the no sway bars stunt, Ralph was unfortunate. Changes in the track conditions (temperature went down) made Ralph's car traction rolled.
While the engine may not be lowered, the steering servo is The 2 speed gearbox 0.8 modules are also part of the enhancement. I believe roll center of the car is also altered by the different suspension arms.
The 2 speed gearbox 0.8 modules are also part of the enhancement. I believe roll center of the car is also altered by the different suspension arms.
08-25-2003, 05:56 AM
#3270
Do you guys cut your foams down to a desired width before running on the 705? Ie 60mm from the stock 63-65mm? I generally cut them for my xray- but nitros chew through them a lot faster than electric. Thought I would get more bang for the buck and keep them stock in the package and adjust ride height accordingly. Thx