R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Nitro On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-22-2003, 02:31 PM   #3256
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TEXAS. USA
Posts: 1,219
Trader Rating: 2 (75%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
Actually, I should mention that the mod I did is not the same as the one done on Ralph's car. As you can see, the rear upper arms on Ralph's car is mounted more towards the center of the chassis thus making for "longer" suspension arms.

I made mine just to be able to vary the rear trackwidth of the car.

I did notice that too!!!
Good to see you pay attention to detail.



Quote:
Somehow, my funny bone tells me you have one Any pics to show before the beautiful chassis gets scared? How much did you get it for?


YEAH, I'll try to take some pics before a scratch gets on it!
I cant tell you how much I got it for.......It might get peeps on here jealous.
PUNISHER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2003, 02:51 PM   #3257
Tech Master
 
modellor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 1,447
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
Which other part are you refering to?

The thing is the 705 is still able to match these current new cars in the market that are already equipped with low CG parts like lowered engine mounts, laid down steering servo and a more efficient 0.8 module gearbox. I would only imagine what it would be like when the next generation Serpent tourer is equipped with those goodies
The other part I was referring too was your statement about the new tourer being untouchable. But I do agree that the new Serpent will be the car to beat.

To be honest, the MTX3 doesnt register here with our vastly heavier 705's and as for all the hype on the R40, it was only the usual bad luck for Josh Cyrul that allowed it to win the US Nats. The cars design is good but it is just too heavy. But once the hop-ups start flowing on it and the weight comes down it will be a lot more competitive and Mugen will be the ones getting left behind for a change.
modellor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2003, 03:23 PM   #3258
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default Re: For Proficar403

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
The distance of the ball cups to the center of the servo mounting hole is 18 mm.
Ooophs, I forgot to mention that the distance between the two ball cup mounting positions on the servo saver is 11 mm.
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2003, 03:36 PM   #3259
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 358
Send a message via ICQ to nizee
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by PUNISHER
I did notice that too!!!
Good to see you pay attention to detail.



YEAH, I'll try to take some pics before a scratch gets on it!
I cant tell you how much I got it for.......It might get peeps on here jealous.
Dude.....you know what should u do......its between u & me..

I'll be screw if anyone want at that price you get!!! Keep it to yourself buddy...
nizee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2003, 10:32 PM   #3260
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: TEXAS. USA
Posts: 1,219
Trader Rating: 2 (75%+)
Default

Quote:
I'll be screw if anyone want at that price you get!!! Keep it to yourself buddy...
I got you covered bro!
PUNISHER is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2003, 10:40 PM   #3261
Tech Fanatic
 
Arun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: GA
Posts: 753
Default

thanks, InitialD. It turnes out that the servo saver I had was messing with my steering ackerman. I put a new serpent servo saver on and my handling easily increased.

BTW...I have seen other dealers lower the price on the 950 just to clear the way for an updated version. The new version will include the lightweight clutch bell and other minor things that I forget.

Also BTW...If any of you have trouble getting serpent parts,
call 1-866-NITRORC (toll free). Very good prices, availability, and prompt shipping. He has a pretty decent selection of tires, serpent/mugen/ae parts, engines, and sometimes carries kits. Also at gasrccar.com
__________________
http://nexusracing.com
Arun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2003, 04:27 AM   #3262
Tech Apprentice
 
Nitrospeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Singapore
Posts: 88
Default 705 awesome

Quote:
Originally posted by PUNISHER
I like my Snake how it is right now!!
No problem beating other cars without those other goodies!!
Just to bump in & wanna to say that 705 is a excellent car with proper set up . I am currently using michael salven 5 port turbo, and i beat VRR with sirio, Mtx 3 with Nova Mspeed. And even real top end wtih JP VRR that i need to brake before i smash to it .Cheer !
Nitrospeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2003, 06:10 PM   #3263
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 325
Default

Quote:
I like my Snake how it is right now!!
yup..mine is getting better by the day. finally i got to run it they way i want. unfortunately thru a lot fo time and money buying 'correct' parts..
pokemon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2003, 07:17 PM   #3264
Tech Elite
 
Pit-racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Cali/Texas
Posts: 2,273
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Anyone running a rossi ns12s3 engine in your 705? If so what gearing do you like?
__________________
Team Misfits / www.igthobbies.com / Desoto Racing / Veytrex.com / JZRacing / RcShox / IGT8 '17
Pit-racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2003, 05:22 AM   #3265
Tech Elite
 
Taylor-Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 2,066
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
<SNIP>

Ummm, I don't know but with all the hopla about low CG this and that, the 705 still spanks the competition in the Euros and nearly spanks the rest at the recent Roar Nats if not for the many flips that Ralph had. Talk about old design my a$$ ... No doubt Team Serpent has one of the best drivers in the world but when you're at that level of competition, everyone is a world beater.
<SNIP>
Pardon me for butting in, but . . .
Absolutely agree on the low CG hoopla point, but if Ralph had some of that lower CG hoopla, maybe he wouldn't have flipped so many times - just a thought, you understand.

While on the subject of low CG hoopla, I measured the engine mounts of our new V-One R Evolution. They are exactly the same height as the original V-One R - plenty of hoopla, there.

The moral of this story is that the likes of Ralph and his peers could TQ a motorised skateboard . . . . or even a R40, maybe.
Taylor-Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2003, 05:39 AM   #3266
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 110
InitialD, any comments regarding your expierence with repositioned front upper arms?
johan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2003, 06:07 AM   #3267
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Pardon me for butting in, but . . .
Checking out on my post?

Quote:
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
Absolutely agree on the low CG hoopla point, but if Ralph had some of that lower CG hoopla, maybe he wouldn't have flipped so many times - just a thought, you understand.
Heheh, good one Perhaps... But he was actually wanted to achieve more steering that he overdid it... He was using 37 shore front and 35 shore rear tires with no front and rear sway bars connected. Michael Salven went one up when he did not used front sway bars (only in the rears) for the Euros... Perhaps they somehow communicated with each other that weekend While Michael was successful with the no sway bars stunt, Ralph was unfortunate. Changes in the track conditions (temperature went down) made Ralph's car traction rolled.

Quote:
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
While on the subject of low CG hoopla, I measured the engine mounts of our new V-One R Evolution. They are exactly the same height as the original V-One R - plenty of hoopla, there.
While the engine may not be lowered, the steering servo is The 2 speed gearbox 0.8 modules are also part of the enhancement. I believe roll center of the car is also altered by the different suspension arms.

Quote:
Originally posted by Taylor-Racing
The moral of this story is that the likes of Ralph and his peers could TQ a motorised skateboard . . . . or even a R40, maybe.
True, but was any car out there in the A main look anything like a motorised skateboard? Both drivers and cars were at the highest level. Every team was well represented at the race... Except perhaps Kyosho wasn't. The title was open to anybody and that explains why Ralph did not win this time.

Talking about the R40, noticed how small Hara used his tires?
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2003, 06:21 AM   #3268
Tech Prophet
 
InitialD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MORDOR
Posts: 19,679
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by johan
InitialD, any comments regarding your expierence with repositioned front upper arms?
Johan, my weekend racing ended horrible Bad luck of engine flaming out (twice) in the first heat and the front belt snapping in the second heat put me out of contention Third heat? Well, too much slow traffic that saw me getting irritated and as a consequence of my impatience, I flipped over and flamed out (again) just before the transponder line and 30 seconds before the 5 minute heat was over

Anyway, so much for my rant The car performed excellent all round. Perhaps a little bit of on power steering was what I needed. But the car with the smaller rear trackwidth (200 mm) turned in better. I was previously using more than 200 mm rear trackwidth with -4 rear camber. I felt the car was faster in the in fields and chicanes and surprisingly the car could still brake hard and stabile with a one way front and the stock rear ball diffs... Not that I'm complaining but this is something which I cannot explain.

Oh yes, I choose to use a Protoform Stratus 2.1 TC shell against the vast competition that used Lola shell bodies on the high speed track and I am quite proud to say that I held the same pace with them In fact I could have been faster if not for the traffic
InitialD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2003, 06:41 AM   #3269
Tech Elite
 
Taylor-Racing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Melbourne OZ
Posts: 2,066
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by InitialD
Checking out on my post?
Oooop's . . . you sprung me.

Quote:
Heheh, good one Perhaps... But he was actually wanted to achieve more steering that he overdid it... He was using 37 shore front and 35 shore rear tires with no front and rear sway bars connected. Michael Salven went one up when he did not used front sway bars (only in the rears) for the Euros... Perhaps they somehow communicated with each other that weekend While Michael was successful with the no sway bars stunt, Ralph was unfortunate. Changes in the track conditions (temperature went down) made Ralph's car traction rolled.
Interesting you say this. I'm not too familiar with Serpent stuff, but one of the local racers turned up with his 705 apparently set up as per Slaven with no sway bars and Xray top arms or something. He said it was very docile and not at all what he was used to. I think he liked it. Too bad we only got one run before the rain settled in.

Quote:
While the engine may not be lowered, the steering servo is The 2 speed gearbox 0.8 modules are also part of the enhancement. I believe roll center of the car is also altered by the different suspension arms.
True enough. My point was really on "hoopla" in general and how so many people seem to get terminally sucked in by it. The Evo certainly has a lower CG than the old car, but I reckon the new front end geometry is the biggest improvement.
Taylor-Racing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2003, 06:56 AM   #3270
Tech Elite
 
John Fontaine's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SouthEast PA
Posts: 2,699
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to John Fontaine
Default

Do you guys cut your foams down to a desired width before running on the 705? Ie 60mm from the stock 63-65mm? I generally cut them for my xray- but nitros chew through them a lot faster than electric. Thought I would get more bang for the buck and keep them stock in the package and adjust ride height accordingly. Thx
John Fontaine is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Serpent 710 Ron C. Nitro On-Road 23347 03-16-2010 02:47 PM
WTB: NIB Serpent 710 aN4rK1 R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 3 06-16-2006 09:23 PM
Serpent 835 JFCJ R/C Items: Wanted to Buy 3 02-20-2005 09:29 PM
Trade in Your Old Serpent 710 Parts for New Serpent 710 Parts fast_it710 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 0 09-17-2004 12:27 AM
Serpent Impulse w/MT-12 and Serpent Starter box - cheap Solara R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 2 03-07-2003 03:01 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 06:20 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net