Originally Posted by Kody

Blue thongs! Are we really heading there... lol EA you know you want an optimized purple/pink man thong!

Originally Posted by Johnny Wishbone

Sorry didn't know it was a closed forum.............even though I know Adam and his passion for his Tamiya cars and his passion to actually get some factory support. either States side or other.

Guess if your not looking at every car out there and their development of parts and just bury your head in the sand looking at only one car, you'll soon be on the outside looking in. You should maybe give Mark a scolding for trying the Awesomatic car out after that race too.

Originally Posted by eComet

I have the TRF416X with Lipo chassis from Tamiya as well as TRF417. Doing a side-by-side comparison, the TRF416X allows more chassis flex due to thinner upper deck and split center pulley blocks, in addition I also use the split suspension blocks.

The TITC track is extremely high grip and pretty large, so chassis flex is very much desired. I think the original TRF417 is stiffer than the TRF416X with Lipo chassis, but less than the original TRF416X.

Probably there will be optional upper deck in the work to tune the chassis flex.

Try to use the split suspension blocks to see if it helps.

Originally Posted by hana166

Very interesting post. Some guys who switched to the 417 said they felt the 416X lipo car had more traction. And one very fast guy preferred the original 416X with nimh cut outs on high grip carpet

I think I'm gonna fabricate my own plate, its been on my mind for ages. Couldn't be bothered before (I have a professional workshop and all the tools, that's why I can't be bothered). 2mm but I want decent lipo retainers unlike the Smokem FX . And cut perfectly symmetrical

Just curious. It is RcTech after all !

Originally Posted by Kody

Blue thongs! Are we really heading there... lol EA you know you want an optimized purple/pink man thong!

Originally Posted by Sean Williams

He wants a gold thong with xray across the butt! Maybe they will even be so little he can hang them on the tamiya sway bars when he finds them!

Make sure you send us a pic EA! See ya at the Reedy Kody

Originally Posted by EAMotorsports

It would have to be Orange. Dont need it to say Xray....Thats already Tatoo'd! J/K.

Sean if they were that small theres no way my big ass would fit into them!

EA

Originally Posted by eComet

I think TRF417 is better out-of-the-box for high grip carpet racing because it's stiffer. Look at how Jilles won the Snowbirds in January.

The original TRF416X chassis is stiffer than the optional lipo chassis, which is why it's a favorite to run on carpet tracks. I run my TRF416X with lipo chassis for carpet and I have to stiffen by adding the steering brace. I still feel some slack when the car is turning due to flexing, even on Cirtix Spec class.

Originally Posted by hana166

Took your comments on board. Used the 416 lipo bottom deck but with 416X top deck, which is considerably stiffer than the lipo top deck

Raised front roll centre to 1mm under blocks, further smoothing out the steering

Fitted the steering brace. This made a massive difference, car super smooth and consistent, yet it still had initial turn in. Great !

Finally to get more initial turn in I laid down the rear shocks one hole and the car was right on the money. Best I ever had the car, by far.

TQ and fastest lap at local club on old worn out Sorex's

Originally Posted by EDWARD2003

Couldn't you stiffen the front end using the holes located at the steering brace and upper deck? I wondering if there will be a aluminum option part to join the upper deck and steering together. Also why is one side of the steering brace counter sunk?

Cheers.