Xray XB2 2WD Buggy Thread
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#946
Tech Initiate
i have been looking at this buggy and i am pretty sure it is going to be my next purchase... One thing i dont understand, what the is the "Luxury" part of the truck that is on the box and in the advertisements?
I get i dont understand the marketing on it...any have an idea what its about
I get i dont understand the marketing on it...any have an idea what its about
some people love it and others find it gaudy, i fall into the latter so i ignore it.
when building the kit for instance, i was not overcome with feelings of sumptuousness, elegance or opulence. xray may however be alluding to a different definition of luxury "an inessential, desirable item which is expensive or difficult to obtain"
#947
K I've noticed this on both my Xb4 and Xb2..
Does it seem right.. To get my ride height I have to have the shock collars all the way up with battery forward and 100grams underneath battery (rear shocks).
Does it seem right.. To get my ride height I have to have the shock collars all the way up with battery forward and 100grams underneath battery (rear shocks).
#948
Tech Elite
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its part of the xray marketing, nothing more..
some people love it and others find it gaudy, i fall into the latter so i ignore it.
when building the kit for instance, i was not overcome with feelings of sumptuousness, elegance or opulence. xray may however be alluding to a different definition of luxury "an inessential, desirable item which is expensive or difficult to obtain"
some people love it and others find it gaudy, i fall into the latter so i ignore it.
when building the kit for instance, i was not overcome with feelings of sumptuousness, elegance or opulence. xray may however be alluding to a different definition of luxury "an inessential, desirable item which is expensive or difficult to obtain"
The build of my xb2 was probably one of the smoothest ever... and I've been in the hobby since '86.
Which didn't prevent me from forgetting a bearing in the transmission case, hence the top shaft wobble mentionned a couple of pages ago
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#951
No changes in geometry.
Bent
#952
Tech Elite
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when they got in the market with the T1 touring car, they really took it a notch above in terms of equipment, fit, quality... now the rest of the pack has caught up in some cases.
The build of my xb2 was probably one of the smoothest ever... and I've been in the hobby since '86.
Which didn't prevent me from forgetting a bearing in the transmission case, hence the top shaft wobble mentionned a couple of pages ago
The build of my xb2 was probably one of the smoothest ever... and I've been in the hobby since '86.
Which didn't prevent me from forgetting a bearing in the transmission case, hence the top shaft wobble mentionned a couple of pages ago
#953
Tech Regular
#954
How would you guys compare it to the b5m or the new 22. Is this truck better or worse or maybe the same. I know it's just an opinion and not looking to get into a Ford vs Chevy type debate. I don't have any way to test it out first which is why I try to read as much as I can
#956
Tech Elite
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How would you guys compare it to the b5m or the new 22. Is this truck better or worse or maybe the same. I know it's just an opinion and not looking to get into a Ford vs Chevy type debate. I don't have any way to test it out first which is why I try to read as much as I can
one thing to consider.. the XB2 carpet edition.. comes with all the extra stuff.. or.. (spares) if you wish.. you get a full extra set of arms.. hubs.. top plate.. tons of extra stuff.. (different stiffness of course) but.. if your at the track.. and break.. you got a spare.. just in case..
also.. the Carpet, and Dirt edtion use the same chassis.. so.. a few bux.. you can buy the few parts to make the car dirt edition.. now.. when its hot.. and you start racing outdoors.. you got everything you need.. basically 2 cars in one..
you can see in my previous post.. looks like Losi guys.. are spending bout 100 bux.. to upgrade their 22, with lightened parts.. drive shafts.. ball diffs.. slipper parts and such.. but the stock parts on the Xray are already lighter than the stock parts on the 22.. not as light as the upgraded parts.. but seem to fall right in the middle.. example.. the losi part is 34 grams.. the light part is say.. 17.. the xray stock part is almost in the middle..
but.. the other brands you mention.. are good cars.. ive seen them on the track.. and i am impressed with them as well..
#958
Tech Champion
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Not trying to bash on TLR 22-3.0, just trying to provide some objective feedback and possibly cross reference any similar concerns that might be shared with the XB2 which may help negate any concerns that I had with the TLR build, not that any of these are deal breakers, just things that might be worth noting to help set expectations:
It's worth noting that I was able to address weight concern with lightened upgrades and the slop in the links appears to be a non issue, my lap consistency scored on the timing system was one of the highest of the drivers at our local track running many other brands of cars (including an XB2-CE). I'm more of a middle of the pack sportsman driver, and the TLR 22-3.0 has me chasing the heels with some of the Pro level drivers now.
I look forward to running with Daniel Grobe soon in the stock class with his XB2-CE, I'm sure he'll school me, ha!
- Car is a little heavy for stock racing out of the box and will need lightened aluminum and titanium parts in order to get closer to the minimum weight restriction of 1500g for stock ROAR racing. With a 5Ah shorty pack (213g) my car weighed in at 1573g with box stock parts.
- Body is awkward to install, the nose is angled downward and tends to catch on the front body post requiring a pick of some sort to lift the body over the post unless you have extremely tiny fingers or untrimmed fingernails
- No holes are provided in ball cups, had to punch my own
- Mix matched SAE and Metric hardware on, 4-40 nut for steering plate, rear toe block and bleeder screws use SAE while rest of car used metric hardware
- No aluminum rear hexes are included
- Dated CVD design with set screws, many quality brands are using spring captured (or bearing captured) pins instead
- e-clips are used to secure shock pistons, many high quality brands are using threaded lock nuts instead to simplify the build
- There is a fair amount of slop in the links after 1 day of racing, might need to upgrade to an aluminum steering rack and higher quality ball links to correct this concern
- Current product marketing fails to specify measurements for wheel hex size and off set making it nearly impossible to buy proper wheels without painstaking research. TLR 22-2.0 front wheels are not compatible with the v3.0, the v2.0 use 10mm hex, yes I learned this the hard way after mounting a new set of tires, doh! I also bought a set of aftermarket wheels that said RB6 rear wheels were compatible with the 22 but I had to add a rear 1.5mm thick spacer to get the lock nut to properly fasten. I'm only going to buy products specifically marked 3.0 compatible from now on!
It's worth noting that I was able to address weight concern with lightened upgrades and the slop in the links appears to be a non issue, my lap consistency scored on the timing system was one of the highest of the drivers at our local track running many other brands of cars (including an XB2-CE). I'm more of a middle of the pack sportsman driver, and the TLR 22-3.0 has me chasing the heels with some of the Pro level drivers now.
I look forward to running with Daniel Grobe soon in the stock class with his XB2-CE, I'm sure he'll school me, ha!