T.O.P. Racing "Photon" 1/10 EP Touring Car
#2642
The chassis he is talking about is the same thickness as the stock chassis. It is made out of a different kind of carbon fiber, and its much much stiffer. Also doesn't have the cutt outs for round cells anymore. So in short your thinking is right about the flex. It just happens to be stiffer actually.
#2643
A question for Larry and the other drivers at the gate. In all honesty, how much difference did the tires make? I've seen a set of new 28's cover over a lot of handling issues. I'm not bashing or criticizing, but it does seem like a big performance gain compared to Vegas (Jaco's). If the car truly comes to life on carpet with the stiffer chassis I'm all for it. Most of my racing is done on Blues because the larger races I attend mandate them. So I am very, very interested in the tire aspect.
thanks
michael.
#2644
Tech Elite
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I know for a fact that almost every driver in the A main ran a new set of tires every run. I only ran 2 sets of tires during 4 rounds and the mains and was just as fast as anyone else. Even faster. If we were running SJR's and everyone else was running Jacos I could see where your question might be valid but since everyone was on equal tires its pretty much a moot point. I had 1/20th the time on the car at the IIC as all the A mainers had plus I had issues with other things also, now that we have developed a proper setup you will see Top cars at or near the top of every big Super Stock race for a long time to come, no matter what the tire.
In the 4th round I'm pretty sure that the top 5 cars had brand new tires on their cars. Here are the laptimes. 4 A mainers from the IIC were at this race including 2 of the top 3 finishers and 2 of the top 3 qualifiers. Not every result will be similar because they are all very good drivers and racers but it just shows that the car is capable of running at the top.
4th Round Halloween Classic Laptimes
I ran the exact same setup I run at our track with Jacos and this setup is the fastest car at our track. I wish I actually had some newer jacos to try at the Classic because the car may have been just as fast. I personally like the feel of jacos on my car better but its about .1-.2 faster on Sorex based tires, but like I said everyone was on equal tires so it really doesnt matter.
In the 4th round I'm pretty sure that the top 5 cars had brand new tires on their cars. Here are the laptimes. 4 A mainers from the IIC were at this race including 2 of the top 3 finishers and 2 of the top 3 qualifiers. Not every result will be similar because they are all very good drivers and racers but it just shows that the car is capable of running at the top.
4th Round Halloween Classic Laptimes
I ran the exact same setup I run at our track with Jacos and this setup is the fastest car at our track. I wish I actually had some newer jacos to try at the Classic because the car may have been just as fast. I personally like the feel of jacos on my car better but its about .1-.2 faster on Sorex based tires, but like I said everyone was on equal tires so it really doesnt matter.
Last edited by L.Fairtrace; 11-05-2009 at 10:08 PM.
#2645
thank you.
#2647
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
The chassis he is talking about is the same thickness as the stock chassis. It is made out of a different kind of carbon fiber, and its much much stiffer. Also doesn't have the cutt outs for round cells anymore. So in short your thinking is right about the flex. It just happens to be stiffer actually.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
Cheers
#2648
Tech Regular
Just a quick question:
Does anyone know if Associated's 48p spur gears fits on the photon?
Thanks
Does anyone know if Associated's 48p spur gears fits on the photon?
Thanks
#2650
Regional Moderator
iTrader: (25)
I know for a fact that almost every driver in the A main ran a new set of tires every run. I only ran 2 sets of tires during 4 rounds and the mains and was just as fast as anyone else. Even faster. If we were running SJR's and everyone else was running Jacos I could see where your question might be valid but since everyone was on equal tires its pretty much a moot point. I had 1/20th the time on the car at the IIC as all the A mainers had plus I had issues with other things also, now that we have developed a proper setup you will see Top cars at or near the top of every big Super Stock race for a long time to come, no matter what the tire.
In the 4th round I'm pretty sure that the top 5 cars had brand new tires on their cars. Here are the laptimes. 4 A mainers from the IIC were at this race including 2 of the top 3 finishers and 2 of the top 3 qualifiers. Not every result will be similar because they are all very good drivers and racers but it just shows that the car is capable of running at the top.
4th Round Halloween Classic Laptimes
I ran the exact same setup I run at our track with Jacos and this setup is the fastest car at our track. I wish I actually had some newer jacos to try at the Classic because the car may have been just as fast. I personally like the feel of jacos on my car better but its about .1-.2 faster on Sorex based tires, but like I said everyone was on equal tires so it really doesnt matter.
In the 4th round I'm pretty sure that the top 5 cars had brand new tires on their cars. Here are the laptimes. 4 A mainers from the IIC were at this race including 2 of the top 3 finishers and 2 of the top 3 qualifiers. Not every result will be similar because they are all very good drivers and racers but it just shows that the car is capable of running at the top.
4th Round Halloween Classic Laptimes
I ran the exact same setup I run at our track with Jacos and this setup is the fastest car at our track. I wish I actually had some newer jacos to try at the Classic because the car may have been just as fast. I personally like the feel of jacos on my car better but its about .1-.2 faster on Sorex based tires, but like I said everyone was on equal tires so it really doesnt matter.
#2653
Regional Moderator
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Hearing that so many guys were running new tires every run is kinda frustrating. Id hate to see this happening at all the races. Thought we were past those days. Anyway, knowing that you ran fewer sets that most, what was the wear like. How many runs did it take for the seam to go away?
#2654
I've been thinking of ordering the photon, but i've got 2 questions. What size lipos are people able to run bone stock out if the box and where's a good place to order spares from? Just curious if spares were in the xray price range of say hot bodies cyclone price range
#2655
Tech Elite
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Hearing that so many guys were running new tires every run is kinda frustrating. Id hate to see this happening at all the races. Thought we were past those days. Anyway, knowing that you ran fewer sets that most, what was the wear like. How many runs did it take for the seam to go away?
Just on a side note, the 2 rounds I ran brand new tires were the 2 rounds I tqed, not to say I couldn't of done it the other rounds on used tires but I hit stuff those rounds or had lapped traffic problems.
I dont know how long it took for the seam to go away, I ground it off and broke the tires in for 8 or so laps in practice then ran them.