3LikesXray T4 2016
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01-03-2016, 09:00 PM
#365
01-04-2016, 04:51 AM
#366
So I just thought I'd weigh in with some experiences of the changing flex positions on the '16 motor mount....
When it was a '15, I pretty much ran the team driver forward only single screw (no nut) option on the lower motor mount. Always seemed to work nicely.
Since having spoken to Olly and Alex about their ETS setups, I realised on the '16 there was a fairly decent option to change the flex by moving the screw back. I've since tested it many many times... and have come to this conclusion;
Hole 1 - Most steering, car feels like it pivots more around the centre, front feels less reactive initially
Hole 2 - Mid range steering, good compromise between 1&3. Piviots more towards rear, front has smoother turn in, but isn't too locked in in the tight stuff. This is currently my go to option for low grip outdoor asphalt.
Hole 3 - Less steering, car feels longer, and more 'locked in' on the rear. Doesn't rotate as well, but a bit smoother still than 2.
(Note, they are all without running the screw&nut, and with a 1mm raised top deck)
Combine those options with the centre post, and also locking the top deck down... the car has a load of tuning options without touching the geometry
Hopefully someone finds that useful.
When it was a '15, I pretty much ran the team driver forward only single screw (no nut) option on the lower motor mount. Always seemed to work nicely.
Since having spoken to Olly and Alex about their ETS setups, I realised on the '16 there was a fairly decent option to change the flex by moving the screw back. I've since tested it many many times... and have come to this conclusion;
Hole 1 - Most steering, car feels like it pivots more around the centre, front feels less reactive initially
Hole 2 - Mid range steering, good compromise between 1&3. Piviots more towards rear, front has smoother turn in, but isn't too locked in in the tight stuff. This is currently my go to option for low grip outdoor asphalt.
Hole 3 - Less steering, car feels longer, and more 'locked in' on the rear. Doesn't rotate as well, but a bit smoother still than 2.
(Note, they are all without running the screw&nut, and with a 1mm raised top deck)
Combine those options with the centre post, and also locking the top deck down... the car has a load of tuning options without touching the geometry
Hopefully someone finds that useful.
01-04-2016, 05:57 AM
#367
So I just thought I'd weigh in with some experiences of the changing flex positions on the '16 motor mount....
When it was a '15, I pretty much ran the team driver forward only single screw (no nut) option on the lower motor mount. Always seemed to work nicely.
Since having spoken to Olly and Alex about their ETS setups, I realised on the '16 there was a fairly decent option to change the flex by moving the screw back. I've since tested it many many times... and have come to this conclusion;
Hole 1 - Most steering, car feels like it pivots more around the centre, front feels less reactive initially
Hole 2 - Mid range steering, good compromise between 1&3. Piviots more towards rear, front has smoother turn in, but isn't too locked in in the tight stuff. This is currently my go to option for low grip outdoor asphalt.
Hole 3 - Less steering, car feels longer, and more 'locked in' on the rear. Doesn't rotate as well, but a bit smoother still than 2.
(Note, they are all without running the screw&nut, and with a 1mm raised top deck)
Combine those options with the centre post, and also locking the top deck down... the car has a load of tuning options without touching the geometry
Hopefully someone finds that useful.
When it was a '15, I pretty much ran the team driver forward only single screw (no nut) option on the lower motor mount. Always seemed to work nicely.
Since having spoken to Olly and Alex about their ETS setups, I realised on the '16 there was a fairly decent option to change the flex by moving the screw back. I've since tested it many many times... and have come to this conclusion;
Hole 1 - Most steering, car feels like it pivots more around the centre, front feels less reactive initially
Hole 2 - Mid range steering, good compromise between 1&3. Piviots more towards rear, front has smoother turn in, but isn't too locked in in the tight stuff. This is currently my go to option for low grip outdoor asphalt.
Hole 3 - Less steering, car feels longer, and more 'locked in' on the rear. Doesn't rotate as well, but a bit smoother still than 2.
(Note, they are all without running the screw&nut, and with a 1mm raised top deck)
Combine those options with the centre post, and also locking the top deck down... the car has a load of tuning options without touching the geometry
Hopefully someone finds that useful.
Have you tried the center post on the '16 yet?
I used to use it quite a lot on the '15, especially on carpet, but the one time I've tried it on the 16 it seemed to make the car understeer more.
01-04-2016, 01:06 PM
#368
Tech Apprentice
motor flex
So I just thought I'd weigh in with some experiences of the changing flex positions on the '16 motor mount....
When it was a '15, I pretty much ran the team driver forward only single screw (no nut) option on the lower motor mount. Always seemed to work nicely.
Since having spoken to Olly and Alex about their ETS setups, I realised on the '16 there was a fairly decent option to change the flex by moving the screw back. I've since tested it many many times... and have come to this conclusion;
Hole 1 - Most steering, car feels like it pivots more around the centre, front feels less reactive initially
Hole 2 - Mid range steering, good compromise between 1&3. Piviots more towards rear, front has smoother turn in, but isn't too locked in in the tight stuff. This is currently my go to option for low grip outdoor asphalt.
Hole 3 - Less steering, car feels longer, and more 'locked in' on the rear. Doesn't rotate as well, but a bit smoother still than 2.
(Note, they are all without running the screw&nut, and with a 1mm raised top deck)
Combine those options with the centre post, and also locking the top deck down... the car has a load of tuning options without touching the geometry
Hopefully someone finds that useful.
When it was a '15, I pretty much ran the team driver forward only single screw (no nut) option on the lower motor mount. Always seemed to work nicely.
Since having spoken to Olly and Alex about their ETS setups, I realised on the '16 there was a fairly decent option to change the flex by moving the screw back. I've since tested it many many times... and have come to this conclusion;
Hole 1 - Most steering, car feels like it pivots more around the centre, front feels less reactive initially
Hole 2 - Mid range steering, good compromise between 1&3. Piviots more towards rear, front has smoother turn in, but isn't too locked in in the tight stuff. This is currently my go to option for low grip outdoor asphalt.
Hole 3 - Less steering, car feels longer, and more 'locked in' on the rear. Doesn't rotate as well, but a bit smoother still than 2.
(Note, they are all without running the screw&nut, and with a 1mm raised top deck)
Combine those options with the centre post, and also locking the top deck down... the car has a load of tuning options without touching the geometry
Hopefully someone finds that useful.
thanks
01-04-2016, 01:46 PM
#370
The other thing I haven't tried yet is putting multiple screws in underneath (ie hole 1 and 3). Something else to add to the list
01-11-2016, 03:43 PM
#372
Not on the 16 yet. Only time I really ever used it on the 15 was to lock the rear in and stop it snapping in quick direction changes. But the majority of the time I find the raised top deck to give more steering, and quicker..
The other thing I haven't tried yet is putting multiple screws in underneath (ie hole 1 and 3). Something else to add to the list
The other thing I haven't tried yet is putting multiple screws in underneath (ie hole 1 and 3). Something else to add to the list
Despite running Mod ion carpet etc it has survived without any bent parts etc.
Although there is obviously some movement, I think the head of the pan head screw prevents the mount from moving more than a fraction of a mm in any direction.
01-12-2016, 05:53 AM
#373
01-12-2016, 12:43 PM
#374
anybody have the link to the setup book that they refer to in the manual? can't seem to find it...
01-12-2016, 01:18 PM
#375
