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Old 05-29-2013, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CristianTabush
The Mi5 has full length shocks, they just lowered the bottom mounting point to be able to do so.

Brandon, a way to make the RSD springs could be to switch out the bottom ball end/ spring perch. Have you seen if the AE TC6 (not the tc6.1 ball end, that's just a turnbuckle eyelet and too long) stuff fits? The TC6 Ball end is pretty short and lowers the spring perch,
what Christain said. The MI-5 comes with the green 16 lb springs. I believe they are the answer to the H/B-HPI silver 16 lb springs, that cant be found anywhere.
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Haven't tried anything like that yet. I'm kind of in a mad rush to get things here by the weekend.. im sure these things will all be sorted and figured out in the weeks to come. In the meantime, ill have the new shui springs to play with, and can try a lower spring perch for the RSD springs I have. I'm sure the feel and performance between the two sets will be different.
Are you sure you used the right ball cups for the shock ends? The right ones are really short. The Schuey website says standard Spec-R springs fit the Mi5.
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
Are you sure you used the right ball cups for the shock ends? The right ones are really short. The Schuey website says standard Spec-R springs fit the Mi5.
I can double check... but you know how schumacher packages their steps in the builds... Every single step has its own bag, all parts are used, and they contain no extra parts. Unless they put the wrong ball cups into the bag? All the other ballcups have holes in them for hex wrenches... and these don't. I don't think they are the wrong ends.
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As Adrian says, "Standard" springs should all fit. At various times I've had Schumacher, Spec R, Yokomo, HPI springs all on the Mi5.
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Anyone have a comparison to an Mi4CXL? My 5 gets here Friday and I have 2 CXLs one new in the box still. Just couldn't resist this car
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Old 05-29-2013, 03:52 PM
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Noticed that the standard carpet setup sheet has the arms mounted 1/2mm lower than the asphalt setup. I would think with less traction on asphalt you would want the lower static RC not the other way around.
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:18 PM
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started the build today. Coming from a xray history for me the build was very smooth and good. The only bump during the build was that one of the o-rings that holds the slider insert over the outdrive didnt stay in its place. After trying for 20 minutes i gave up ( think the oring wasnt good) so i used a little CA to keep the slider insert in place until i receive a new package of inserts.

Tommorow is shock building day and by the looks of it, they look very nice!
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JanE
started the build today. Coming from a xray history for me the build was very smooth and good. The only bump during the build was that one of the o-rings that holds the slider insert over the outdrive didnt stay in its place. After trying for 20 minutes i gave up ( think the oring wasnt good) so i used a little CA to keep the slider insert in place until i receive a new package of inserts.

Tommorow is shock building day and by the looks of it, they look very nice!
Jan,
The easiest way to put the o ring in was to put a liberal amount of grease on it, then side the insert in... believe me, the grease works best..
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Originally Posted by gdcopbdcop
what Christain said. The MI-5 comes with the green 16 lb springs. I believe they are the answer to the H/B-HPI silver 16 lb springs, that cant be found anywhere.
I had a ton of these at the reedy. You gotta have killer hook up's
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Originally Posted by gdcopbdcop
what Christain said. The MI-5 comes with the green 16 lb springs. I believe they are the answer to the H/B-HPI silver 16 lb springs, that cant be found anywhere.
AMain has the 6543s in stock if your looking
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
Are you sure you used the right ball cups for the shock ends? The right ones are really short. The Schuey website says standard Spec-R springs fit the Mi5.
Originally Posted by MattW
As Adrian says, "Standard" springs should all fit. At various times I've had Schumacher, Spec R, Yokomo, HPI springs all on the Mi5.
The RSD TC6 springs are smaller diameter and a couple mm longer than typical TC springs. That's probably what's going on.

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Noticed that the standard carpet setup sheet has the arms mounted 1/2mm lower than the asphalt setup. I would think with less traction on asphalt you would want the lower static RC not the other way around.
I think the theory is that on carpet, the lower roll center will:
1) Numb the response of the car, to avoid harsh load transfers, and thus stave off traction roll.
2) Combined with less droop, cause the outside to compress down more and the inside to lift up less, to keep the CG lower at peak cornering loads, and let the chassis rub and wash out mid corner instead of traction rolling


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Jan,
The easiest way to put the o ring in was to put a liberal amount of grease on it, then side the insert in... believe me, the grease works best..
My "pro" (I wish ) tip is to pull the bearing out to the edge of the o-ring, to keep the o-ring in place in the groove on the outdrive while you slide the insert on.

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Originally Posted by gdcopbdcop
Jan,
The easiest way to put the o ring in was to put a liberal amount of grease on it, then side the insert in... believe me, the grease works best..
That's good to know I have to remember that when I get to that step
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Guys, did anyone measure the gear diff between the bearing shoulders? I want to use it in a different car and would like to know if it fits between the bulkheads. My car is narrower than Tamiya cars (and pretty much all else since all I know of are very close).

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Originally Posted by JanE
The only bump during the build was that one of the o-rings that holds the slider insert over the outdrive didnt stay in its place. After trying for 20 minutes i gave up ( think the oring wasnt good) so i used a little CA to keep the slider insert in place until i receive a new package of inserts.

Tommorow is shock building day and by the looks of it, they look very nice!
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Jan,
The easiest way to put the o ring in was to put a liberal amount of grease on it, then side the insert in... believe me, the grease works best..
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That's good to know I have to remember that when I get to that step
All you need to do is follow the amendment sheet. It shows you how to slide the sleeve over without knocking the oring out of it's groove. You slide the bearing out and hold it up against the other side of the o-ring, then you slide the sleeve over. The bearing holds it in place until the sleeve makes it over.
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Originally Posted by Cpt.America
All you need to do is follow the amendment sheet. It shows you how to slide the sleeve over without knocking the oring out of it's groove. You slide the bearing out and hold it up against the other side of the o-ring, then you slide the sleeve over. The bearing holds it in place until the sleeve makes it over.
you are right! Reading instructions well is hard during an exciting build
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