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I know its still kind of early but the new nexus racing indoor carpet track is opening soon and I will need to convert my setup from asphalt rubber to carpet rubber. Anybody have any suggestions on where I should start or how much I may need to change my setup?
Hi, anybody running the tc with low wind motor? how does it do? i hear its set up for modified motors and im planning to run in with 13.5. thanks.
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Anybody able to gear for 3.5T brushless without using the optional brushless motor mount? I have the mamba 6900 system and final drive ratio required is around 9.0.. I want to use 116/28 spur/pinion combination..
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Korey
Ive also tried you setup indoors on carpet on my WCE edition, but ive fitted the new arms and the carpet top deck.
i run the HB C Class body and reduced the droop as CCF man too 5mm all round
1st run i ran sorex 36r like you and found the car a bit understeery on power.
2nd run raised front droop to 6mm and fitted a well used set of sorex 32r, made car bit tail happy but quicker.
3rd run dropped front droop back to 5mm this calmed car down a lot.
Final i realised i had the wrong front arm spacing, with arms forward
changed as per your setup to arms back, this made the car real tail happy and very sideways out of corners.
Maybe you do this due to the less physical grip of the 36r tyre.
Are the TC tower holes the same as the WCE towers.
Richard
Ive also tried you setup indoors on carpet on my WCE edition, but ive fitted the new arms and the carpet top deck.
i run the HB C Class body and reduced the droop as CCF man too 5mm all round
1st run i ran sorex 36r like you and found the car a bit understeery on power.
2nd run raised front droop to 6mm and fitted a well used set of sorex 32r, made car bit tail happy but quicker.
3rd run dropped front droop back to 5mm this calmed car down a lot.
Final i realised i had the wrong front arm spacing, with arms forward
changed as per your setup to arms back, this made the car real tail happy and very sideways out of corners.
Maybe you do this due to the less physical grip of the 36r tyre.
Are the TC tower holes the same as the WCE towers.
Richard
Last edited by richard baker; 08-16-2008 at 01:20 AM. Reason: any question
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The sorex 36R is NOT a carpet tire. I've never had good luck with these. I run on a highly abrasive indoor asphalt track that is hard on tires, so we run sorex 36R's so they actually hold up through a run. The track also has very very high traction. Personally I prefer sorex 28R's on carpet.
So it sounds like most of your problems are coming from an improper tire for the track surface. If you have to use the sorex 32R's, then try and just soften up the car a bit. Angling the camber links (fewer shims on the inner pivots) will create more mechanical grip overall. Maybe even ad a little more rear toe in.
I'm not 100% sure on the TC shock towers having the same positions as the WCE. I do know that the TC shock towers are thicker, and they are slightly lower to accommodate the taller upper bulkheads.
-Korey
So it sounds like most of your problems are coming from an improper tire for the track surface. If you have to use the sorex 32R's, then try and just soften up the car a bit. Angling the camber links (fewer shims on the inner pivots) will create more mechanical grip overall. Maybe even ad a little more rear toe in.
I'm not 100% sure on the TC shock towers having the same positions as the WCE. I do know that the TC shock towers are thicker, and they are slightly lower to accommodate the taller upper bulkheads.
-Korey
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WCE and TC Shock Towers are definately different. They have different mounting holes for the lower TC Upper Bulkheads.
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cheers i ment the the holes for shock mounting are they in same places.
I know the TC uses lower shock towers an shorter bodied shocks
korey i ment to say i use 3.0 rear toe and 1.5 front block.
I know the TC uses lower shock towers an shorter bodied shocks
korey i ment to say i use 3.0 rear toe and 1.5 front block.
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I remember seeing it before, but the last time I looked I didn't see a motor mount "tagged" as a brushless one
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Actually, out of the box, its setup for stock racing, 13.5 or 11.5 brushless.. 27T or 23T brushed because of internal ratio is lower = 2.175. Maximum spur gear can be used is 105T or get the optional brushless motor mount for open mod racing if you want to use bigger spur up to 110T..
Anybody able to gear for 3.5T brushless without using the optional brushless motor mount? I have the mamba 6900 system and final drive ratio required is around 9.0.. I want to use 116/28 spur/pinion combination..
Anybody able to gear for 3.5T brushless without using the optional brushless motor mount? I have the mamba 6900 system and final drive ratio required is around 9.0.. I want to use 116/28 spur/pinion combination..
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I ran my mamba 7700 with the stock motor mount with 109/27 for more then a year. I've had the brushless motor mount for more then a year as well and with that 114 has plenty of room. I think you can use 117 and still have room, you will have to take some off the rear top plate. I use 16t pullys for my 7700 outdoor and 18t pullys indoor carpet with my 4600, All with rubber tires.
Last edited by Lazer Guy; 08-16-2008 at 08:08 AM.
could anyone tell me what difference will it make if i use 1.5 toe block front instead of 2.5 .
Also when i measure the droop on my car when its written 5mm on my droop gauge the car has only 2mm of uptravel
Thamks in advance
Also when i measure the droop on my car when its written 5mm on my droop gauge the car has only 2mm of uptravel
Thamks in advance
could anyone tell me what difference will it make if i use 1.5 toe block front instead of 2.5 .
Also when i measure the droop on my car when its written 5mm on my droop gauge the car has only 2mm of uptravel .
Thanks in advance
Also when i measure the droop on my car when its written 5mm on my droop gauge the car has only 2mm of uptravel .
Thanks in advance
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Korey
Ive also tried you setup indoors on carpet on my WCE edition, but ive fitted the new arms and the carpet top deck.
i run the HB C Class body and reduced the droop as CCF man too 5mm all round
1st run i ran sorex 36r like you and found the car a bit understeery on power.
2nd run raised front droop to 6mm and fitted a well used set of sorex 32r, made car bit tail happy but quicker.
3rd run dropped front droop back to 5mm this calmed car down a lot.
Final i realised i had the wrong front arm spacing, with arms forward
changed as per your setup to arms back, this made the car real tail happy and very sideways out of corners.
Maybe you do this due to the less physical grip of the 36r tyre.
Are the TC tower holes the same as the WCE towers.
Richard
Ive also tried you setup indoors on carpet on my WCE edition, but ive fitted the new arms and the carpet top deck.
i run the HB C Class body and reduced the droop as CCF man too 5mm all round
1st run i ran sorex 36r like you and found the car a bit understeery on power.
2nd run raised front droop to 6mm and fitted a well used set of sorex 32r, made car bit tail happy but quicker.
3rd run dropped front droop back to 5mm this calmed car down a lot.
Final i realised i had the wrong front arm spacing, with arms forward
changed as per your setup to arms back, this made the car real tail happy and very sideways out of corners.
Maybe you do this due to the less physical grip of the 36r tyre.
Are the TC tower holes the same as the WCE towers.
Richard