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Old 07-23-2009, 11:41 AM   #16921
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like this:

they are 1inch stainless bookshelf angles cut to fit then glued using good 5minute epoxy.
once i had one take a hit directly on the lipo side. then one came loose but just re glued it and stuck since.
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:14 PM   #16922
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they are 1inch stainless bookshelf angles cut to fit then glued using good 5minute epoxy.
once i had one take a hit directly on the lipo side. then one came loose but just re glued it and stuck since.
Thanks for the photos, Tom. Currently, I use side way tapes to secure the SMC packs.

Honestly, I am quite dissapointed that after lipo has become the standard for years, HB has yet to come out with a practical solution for lipo. I have been waiting and waiting, hoping HB has been working on a good solution that doesn't require their customers to make time consuming customizations. And yes, I am very dissapointed. The unsymetrical upper deck that they just released is simply an ad hoc bug fix, which doesn't really resolve the problem for securing lipo packs. What are they thinking? Now I feel like I am at an disadvantage driving a Cyclone. I truly hope HB will come out with a more thoughtful solution very soon. Is it really that difficult?
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Old 07-23-2009, 01:56 PM   #16923
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"Standard for years", What??? Roar just approved them for racing LAST year, besides there only legal for ROAR raceing. Most of the other countrys haven't changed there rules for lipos yet. So should HB's build a new lipo friendly car just for the US??

What manufacter designed there car to secure lipo packs, besides TOP??? NO ONE!!! Everything out is aftermarket.

As for the "unsymetrical upper deck", it didn't hurt Korey H. when he ran it at this years Reedy race, he qual. 2nd and finished 3rd also Tq'ing the 3rd round of Qualifing!!!

I ONLY use one piece of strapping tape to hold my lipos in and I haven't lost one this year!!! (TP 5000 on a PPD plate) And yes I DO hit the walls!!!

If you feel at a disadvantage driving a Cyclone, because the 5 year old car wasen't designed to hold a lipo maybe its time for a change!!!
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Old 07-23-2009, 02:36 PM   #16924
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Hey Scott, have you seen the solutions by Xray and Corally? It isn't really that difficult, all it takes is just some initiatives.

So, do you not think HB could have done a better job with their lipo solution? What about those who are just starting out with touring cars, should they spend the unecessary time and trouble to figure out how to secure their lipo packs? Isn't that supposed to be the manufacturer's job?

I see HB in your signature. Do you work or run for HB? You should be ashamed to bash a customer's comment.
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Old 07-23-2009, 02:58 PM   #16925
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Thanks for the photos, Tom. Currently, I use side way tapes to secure the SMC packs.

Honestly, I am quite dissapointed that after lipo has become the standard for years, HB has yet to come out with a practical solution for lipo. I have been waiting and waiting, hoping HB has been working on a good solution that doesn't require their customers to make time consuming customizations. And yes, I am very dissapointed. The unsymetrical upper deck that they just released is simply an ad hoc bug fix, which doesn't really resolve the problem for securing lipo packs. What are they thinking? Now I feel like I am at an disadvantage driving a Cyclone. I truly hope HB will come out with a more thoughtful solution very soon. Is it really that difficult?
can you REALLY tell the difference btw a symmetrical and asymmetrical top deck? and if you can tell the difference, that means your a TOP LEVEL PROFESSIONAL driver so one of two things happen....

1. you get your stuff for free... and/or
2. you dont run lipo b/c all you run is mod and thats 5cell nimh at the worlds level so the top deck doesnt affect you anyways...

i really doubt your driving skills are high enough to notice the difference. you're not Hara, Rheinard or Masami....
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I forgot about the Xray blocks, and the corally system I have seen are from Specialized RC, So "aftermarket".

Also those cars came out with holes in the chassis to mount a battery strap or the little plastic cell blocks (xray), so they only had to design something aroung mounting holes already there. There are no holes around the edge of a HB's chassis so any "lipo upgrade system" would have to include a new chassis, adding atleast another $75 to any system they came up with. Not worth it to me!!!

As for, if I think HB could have done a better job with their lipo solution. The new topdeck and bulkhead have NOTHING to do with securing a lipo it was only made to allow for the larger 5000, 5200, and now 6000 lipos so people didn't have to mill the middle right bulhead.

As I sayed I don't have a problem as well as many others I have seen. That dosen't say there isn't a problem for some.

Maybe you can take a drill and mount the TOP or XRAY system to your chassis, all it takes is just some initiatives!!!
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:05 PM   #16927
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I see HB in your signature. Do you work or run for HB? You should be ashamed to bash a customer's comment.
I run for HB's, and I'm NOT ashamed for what I sayed, I don't like when people bash a product or company I support!!
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:19 PM   #16928
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I see HB in your signature. Do you work or run for HB? You should be ashamed to bash a customer's comment.
Scotty is one of the nicest guys you will EVER meet. He does nothing but help people out, He is on the team for a reason.


And on another note, Is there a chart of the Hara springs? I have a few sets I want to use, but im not sure of the spring rates. And then also is there 2 version of the hpi silver spring? I have some hpi springs that are actually silver, and then they have some that are black?
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I run for HB's, and I'm NOT ashamed for what I sayed, I don't like when people bash a product or company I support!!
Scott, you will bash someone even though he is pointing out a real flaw or simply expressing his honest opinion about HB's product? Do you really think you are really helping HB in the way you reponded? Or you simply got too much time and have nothing to do? Furthermore, you do not really understand what I was trying to express, you just like to bash .. huh?

By the way, the Xray and Corally solutions are offered by the manufacturers' themself, not after market parts.

I wish some management people from HB see this thread and get you fired. If you are really representing HB, you are giving them a bad name.

Your response says that HB do not care about what customers think, just take it or leave it. A company who cannot take customer's opinion seriously will eventually go down. Well, I guess you won't know much about that.
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Old 07-23-2009, 03:21 PM   #16930
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I donīt like the new systems for secure lipos, i think is a patch for NiMh chassis, i only use tape, for my lipos,too, without problems at all.
I grinding a litle the bulkheard, is take 1 minute of dremel work, perfect for my 5300 nosram lipo batteries.
The tape is inespensive, and not tweak the chassis.

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Scotty is one of the nicest guys you will EVER meet. He does nothing but help people out, He is on the team for a reason.


And on another note, Is there a chart of the Hara springs? I have a few sets I want to use, but im not sure of the spring rates. And then also is there 2 version of the hpi silver spring? I have some hpi springs that are actually silver, and then they have some that are black?
The hara springs are kind of hard to compare with the others since they are progressive. They feel a lot different than the HPI Pro 4 springs on the track. I have some rough numbers, but keep in mind even though the rates I list may look similar to some, they are much different on the track.

Yellow: 12.8 lb/in
Grey: 14.0 lb/in
Black: 15.1 lb/in
Purple: 16.2 lb/in
Red: 17.3 lb/in

Oh, the new black colored silver and gold springs are the same as the old ones. They started coloring them black a few months ago.

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And on another note, Is there a chart of the Hara springs? I have a few sets I want to use, but im not sure of the spring rates. And then also is there 2 version of the hpi silver spring? I have some hpi springs that are actually silver, and then they have some that are black?
Below is the chart I put together, which you can get quick reference of the spring rate.

Brand/Colour......Comp./ Ratio
Hara Yellow..........12.89lb/ 230g
Hara White...........13.98lb/ 250g
Hara Black............15.11lb/ 270g
Hot Bodies Blue.....15.3lb/ 273g
Hara Purple...........16.24lb/ 290g
Hot Bodies Silver....16.9lb/ 302g
Hara Red..............17.36lb/ 310g
Hot Bodies Pink......18.0lb/320g
Hot Bodies Gold......19.0lb/340g
Hot Bodies White....20.3lb/363g
Hot Bodies Yellow...21.7lb/388g
Hot Bodies Red.......22.4lb/400g
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What manufacter designed there car to secure lipo packs, besides TOP??? NO ONE!!! Everything out is aftermarket.
besides the losi type R that's been out for how many years now HI SCOTTY!!!
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I donīt like the new systems for secure lipos, i think is a patch for NiMh chassis, i only use tape, for my lipos,too, without problems at all.
I grinding a litle the bulkheard, is take 1 minute of dremel work, perfect for my 5300 nosram lipo batteries.
The tape is inespensive, and not tweak the chassis.

Greetings, Luis C.
I shaved approx 2 mm off the alum mount, so clearance is not a problem for me. I do wish HB will offer a cleaner, out of the box usable solution for securing lipo packs without bumps and also for adding weight to the right side of the chassis.

Presently, I add weight to each of my packs, which is kind of a pain, because I also use those packs in my other cars, which doesn't need the weight.

I currently secure my packs with tapes. They have never come off until yesterday, when I had a bad crash and the battery pack slid out from the side and broke a tab off my speedo. That was painful.

Cyclone has some holes at both side of the battery slots, I am sure they can some out with a solution, as there are already many good examples out there for other cars.
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besides the losi type R that's been out for how many years now HI SCOTTY!!!
Is that a good enough excuse for not providing a solution for faithful paying customers?
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