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Old 10-14-2008, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gyro
Ok as I read all of the info, here are my deductions... Please correct me if I am wrong.

Novak SS Brushless 21.5 & Lipo combo acceptable FDRs are:

4.2 thru 9.99 Correct?

If that is true then based on this quote from 414Mph's post from the previous page...


Would a 5.5 FDR:
A. Be USVTA Legal?
B. Be a suitable FDR to "Try" in practice on my TC5R?

I am only asking as I want to stay 100% within the USVTA rules.
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My recomened starting final ratio for that racer was based on my experience and his stated track size.

(Results may vary based on your equipment, choice of chassis, battery manufaturer and supplier choice, charging equipment, clenliness of your pit space, color of body, the shear quantity of aluminum parts on your chassis as well as the color of the anodizing on said parts and what color wheel nuts installed on your vehicle and what your beverage of choice happens to be. Many racers believe results are minimally influenced by your basic inherent skills, patience, driving ability, chassis tuning ability, and how much you practice to develope your talents and knowledge. The preceeding information will obviously be void by the use of common sense.)
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Originally Posted by Gyro
Would a 5.5 FDR:

Be a suitable FDR to "Try" in practice on my TC5R?
We race on an aprox. 100x50 asphalt track, with laptimes, depending on the layout design, between 13 seconds and 20 seconds in TA.

Most of our 21.5 people are between 4.3 and 4.6.
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Originally Posted by ApexSpeed
Okie, I didn't think this was such a confusing issue, but apparently is it.

There is a difference between a "suggested" gear ratio and the limited ceiling in the rules. You can run ANY ratio you want with the 21.5, as long as it is not a lower numerical number than 4.2. So technically, a 4.199999 FDR would not be allowed, not that you could really get that number in gears.

The USVTA suggested gearing is the number that the 21.5 seems to perform best on most tracks with LiPos, but YMMV. I'm not sure where Marty got his 5.XXX suggestion, but you will need to be down around 4.2 through 4.4 to be in the ballpark.

Simple. Don't over-complicate things by thinking too hard.
5.5 is a nice starting point for burnouts. When you hit 7 you get a real nice drift car.
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can someone pm me a good starting setup for a tc5 at the gate, I am going to run trans am for the first time for the halloween classic. I am going to do 21.5 lipo, is there alot of weight needed for that setup???

does a spool work in these cars on carpet?
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Wow,

All the talk about FDR's has ME confused NOW!

The TALLEST Gear Ratio (FINAL) is a 4.200000

So, if the Gear Box ratio of my TC is a 2.50:1 and my drive gears are a 72/42 I have a 4.2857 ratio

But if I went to a 72/43 it would give me a 4.186, so the that would be over geared.

But now my belt drive TC has a 2.00:1 gear box ratio, so I could run a 104/49 which would be a 4.244 final drive ratio, or a 108/51 which would be a 4.235, or a 84/40 = 4.2000 on the nose.
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Old 10-14-2008, 01:17 PM
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Bingo. Nothing confusing about that!
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Originally Posted by 414MPH

(Results may vary based on your equipment, choice of chassis, battery manufaturer and supplier choice, charging equipment, clenliness of your pit space, color of body, the shear quantity of aluminum parts on your chassis as well as the color of the anodizing on said parts and what color wheel nuts installed on your vehicle and what your beverage of choice happens to be. Many racers believe results are minimally influenced by your basic inherent skills, patience, driving ability, chassis tuning ability, and how much you practice to develope your talents and knowledge. The preceeding information will obviously be void by the use of common sense.)
This is the smartest thing I've heard all day. Funny
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Where is the Pegasus Camaro Body sold at? I'm now looking to get into VTA since the new track that opened closeby only runs VTA in 1/10 scale. Do the spec HPI Tires hook up well on on carpet or are they everywhere?
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Originally Posted by crazy4wdracer
Where is the Pegasus Camaro Body sold at? I'm now looking to get into VTA since the new track that opened closeby only runs VTA in 1/10 scale. Do the spec HPI Tires hook up well on on carpet or are they everywhere?

I contacted Horizon Hobby about it after I posted a similar question. Their response (timely too I might add) was that the body would be available later this month.

I'm still hoping the powers that be at HPI, ProLine, etc will come up with a Javelin body......wink, wink,
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SWTour
Wow,

All the talk about FDR's has ME confused NOW!
What are you confused about? Everything you said seems spot on. I can't find anything you typed that leads to us seeing any confusion on your part.
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Originally Posted by crazy4wdracer
Do the spec HPI Tires hook up well on on carpet or are they everywhere?
You will be surprised how well they work. Just use your favorite tire dope. If you use Jack, let it set at least 10-15 min.
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Originally Posted by bigemike
can someone pm me a good starting setup for a tc5 at the gate, I am going to run trans am for the first time for the halloween classic. I am going to do 21.5 lipo, is there alot of weight needed for that setup???

does a spool work in these cars on carpet?
I would start with the box stock setup for rubber tire and go from there, you might have to use softer springs. I have my car setup with a 4-cell 17.5 and its pretty close to weight so I dont think you would have to add much. I personally use a oneway or a diff. At my track the spools seems to reduce steering.

If you get the chance set your car up at your track and then you should be able to fine tune it when you get to the gate. Thats prettymuch what I ended up doing. I'm looking foward to running VTA (real rules) for the first time.

If your curious I"m running a Pro-2.
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Would a associated rc10 tc3 be legal for this class? I want to get into racing and I like this idea.
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:42 PM
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Any 4WD on road 1/10th scale chassis is legal

FYI: If you go to the first post of this thread all the rules are there.
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I'm not completely positive on what constitutes a 1/10 on-road chassis. Just wanted to double check.

I read the rules and checked out their website to double check them.
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