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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.

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Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root).

Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either.

I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'.

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Old 12-14-2015, 07:00 AM   #1006
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This was a Great Build!

[IMG]22B 3.0 by Sean Carney, on Flickr[/IMG]
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aematt and Hotrod127 did a really nice wire jobs on there buggies.
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Hey guys, just ordered my 3.0 kit. I will be taking my Jconcepts axles off my 2.0 so I can keep using my old wheels/tires until they are too worn. My question is how long will it be before AKA/Jconcepts/Proline has some wheels out there for this car or will we be buying TLR wheels exclusively?

Also, are the wheels 2.2 or 2.4?
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Hey guys, just ordered my 3.0 kit. I will be taking my Jconcepts axles off my 2.0 so I can keep using my old wheels/tires until they are too worn. My question is how long will it be before AKA/Jconcepts/Proline has some wheels out there for this car or will we be buying TLR wheels exclusively?

Also, are the wheels 2.2 or 2.4?
I'm sure that in the near future AKA/JConcepts/Proline will release a TLR 12mm hex front wheel, but for now the only ones available are the TLR brand ones.

The kit includes 2 complete sets of 2.2" wheels, one set in yellow, one set in white.
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One bad buggy!!!!! It's awesome on the track.

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One bad buggy!!!!! It's awesome on the track.
Looks good. I've always been a fan of orange and yellow.
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Bench shots of my build. Some more wiring ideas for you guys. Disregard the 4wd from tires, just a quick mock.

Great feedback from some volunteer test pilots on my buggy here in Vegas so far. Test pilots ranging in various skill levels and buggy experience, and even a few die hard AE guys thrown in just to see them squirm.

None could believe their lap times immediately on this buggy. All commented on how planted and sure of itself the car felt. After a few TLR driving tips, their lap times just kept getting lower and lower until I was forced to rip the radio out of their hands.

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Anyone weigh this car yet ready to run with a shorty pack and no hop up Ti stuff?
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I had 1563 with a shorty pack.
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Anyone weigh this car yet ready to run with a shorty pack and no hop up Ti stuff?

Stock with a fairly heavy servo, MKS HBL575, and a heavy ESC, Reedy 410R, mine came in at 1548 using an Orion shorty 4,500. This buggy would be pretty easy to outfit with stock light items to make the 1,499 weight. I doubt it would take as much titanium as my B5M took to get near there.

This last weekend I opted to drop the 17.5 and try out a 10.5, small indoor clay track with some technical jumps made the lower turn much more enjoyable. After five battery packs I finally broke something. Weekends mean a ton of new drivers and tons of short course on the track, I enjoy it as it makes me pick lines and work through traffic at speed when many of them are very unpredictable in the lines they hold and drive. On the fifth battery I was pretty dialed in and real comfortable moving around the track and through traffic when one of the fathers corner marshaling stepped out onto the track with out looking right at the end of the straightaway, no time to avoid I hit his ankle square on wide open. I thought it would be several parts as it was a dead stop smack, only broke the front shock tower to my surprise. I hate to see what his ankle looked like Monday morning
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RC Bombshell has aluminum servo mounts! They look like straight 2.0 ones. My 3.0 plastic servo mounts have a slight curve to them. Is that so the servo wires have more room to exit the servo? Will the 2.0 servo mounts fit the 3.0?

I'm not having a great build. I've built about eight 22 diffs and this one has a bad ball in her. I started to feel it as I was spinning the diff as I tightened down the diff screw. Backed her off and removed all balls. Brake cleaned all parts and using rubber gloved hands and clean tweezers reassembled with flipped rings just in case. Still notchy. Does the kit come with the tungsten carbide diff balls? I know all it takes is one piece of lint and welcome to notchy diff land. Lucky for me I keep spare diff service kits on my peg board. Just hate using one right off the bat. Once the transmission was assembled there was a tight spot/bind any way. Hopfully replacing the diff gear will cure that. Looked at every tooth under a micrscope that I use for surface mount electronics repair. Everything was clean. My wife loves(sarcastic tone) the smell of brake cleaner in my shop. Haven't got crap done for Christmas. All I can think about is building this buggy. I think I need to go to some RC addiction anonymous meetings. Sorry kids I forgot to buy you gifts this year, daddy was building a new rc car.

For guys looking to save weight, my S6270 servo is pretty light. And if you run her straight off the battery she is ultra super duper fast. Can save you about 18gms. S6240=59.5gm, S6270=42gm

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Bought my 3.0 in between heats while racing my F1 on carpet!
Just down the street.

Built it that night during the Ultimate Fights.

Raced it the next day, against Eli Tomac Supercross and MX champ.

Yeh, he crashed and I got him.
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