Spec/Handout Speedo thoughts
#31
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To buy the motor (and its yours for the entire series to use if you return it at the end of the race and your only allowed one unless you blow it up) it was 50.00 Euro (about 65.00) If you were not coming back to another event you could take it with you if you bought it. To rent it I think it was 10 Euro. Speedo was same to buy or rent. Speedo you did not have to return if you bought it.
Entry fee was 50 Euro and came with a set of tires I believe.
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Entry fee was 50 Euro and came with a set of tires I believe.
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#32
there was this one old guy on a thread a while back suggesting just this very thing.
its a great idea. gets that playing field just a little more level. (of course, not many really want that)
its a great idea. gets that playing field just a little more level. (of course, not many really want that)
#33
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Show up, pay a reasonable fee, and burn laps.... sounds good to me. If I get stuck with junk electronics at least everyone else is, too
#34
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i think we worry too much about what is in the car instead of teaching how to tune the car ...
Skil land knowledge can not be regulated and these are the two most important things to be a great racer.
We try too much to regulate everything and don't foster the idea of getting good and building the skills.
Skil land knowledge can not be regulated and these are the two most important things to be a great racer.
We try too much to regulate everything and don't foster the idea of getting good and building the skills.
#35
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It reminded me about why Europe/Asia can have SKYLINE GT-R , Subaru 22B, Mitshibitshi EVO like 10+ years before US imported them recently....does American cannot afford them? Or we cannot handle that kinda power or we don't have the road for these import?
There is always the SOMEONE preventing this happening...and that has to do with MONEY and PROFIT.....
There is always the SOMEONE preventing this happening...and that has to do with MONEY and PROFIT.....
#36
Even disregarding the level playing field (which doesn't matter to me) it could be cheaper for the racer AND take some "headaches" away in terms of buying/testing electronics.
Show up, pay a reasonable fee, and burn laps.... sounds good to me. If I get stuck with junk electronics at least everyone else is, too
Show up, pay a reasonable fee, and burn laps.... sounds good to me. If I get stuck with junk electronics at least everyone else is, too
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#37
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I wouldn't be opposed to this, I actually think if done right, it could improve the numbers racing and trying to race. The cheaper the class, the more likely to see someone try it.... I've seen that first hand where we race. It's hard to get new people to try a $400 kit plus all the electronics. We're talking about doing a locked motor, blinky (non-programmable preffered) esc class. Our goal is to get people in and racing competitively on a relative budget. I priced everything out including a new TC4 kit or sakura zero S and you can get all in with decent equipment for around $400.
Personally, I have two Novak Edge's. I really like the feel of the ESC. The problem I have is with the programming. If you can remember the order of the blinking lights for all of the different settings, you're good to go. However, I don't know anyone who can. I generally also have a book to help, but in a pinch right before the start of the race you could be SOL. Been there, done that. My only request with a ESC handout like this, is that for the programming options that are there, its simple to use. For example (Cirtix, HobbyWing Justock) should have a programming card to simplify drag brake and other adjustments people may use. I can say that in blinky, my novak has been just as competitive as my LRP SXX in both touring and 1/12.
It's a great idea, but I can see several locals unwilling to race this way. We'd have to work on that, as would everywhere else. Different tracks can run different classes, so it'd be hard to say, we're running this class throughout the country, and this only.... like their locked motor and handout esc class.
Personally, I have two Novak Edge's. I really like the feel of the ESC. The problem I have is with the programming. If you can remember the order of the blinking lights for all of the different settings, you're good to go. However, I don't know anyone who can. I generally also have a book to help, but in a pinch right before the start of the race you could be SOL. Been there, done that. My only request with a ESC handout like this, is that for the programming options that are there, its simple to use. For example (Cirtix, HobbyWing Justock) should have a programming card to simplify drag brake and other adjustments people may use. I can say that in blinky, my novak has been just as competitive as my LRP SXX in both touring and 1/12.
It's a great idea, but I can see several locals unwilling to race this way. We'd have to work on that, as would everywhere else. Different tracks can run different classes, so it'd be hard to say, we're running this class throughout the country, and this only.... like their locked motor and handout esc class.
#39
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I'd like to see races like the RCR Endurance Series 1 race.
I can't add URLs, so you will have to search youtube for it
Tan
I can't add URLs, so you will have to search youtube for it
Tan
#41
It's a terrible idea !!!! Why not spec everything: the Car , the radio, the wires, the Bearings in the Car, the Car polish......etc... Too much spec kills everything.. It sounds like SOCIALISM to me.... No way baby!!! If the cirtix is better than your other stuff, then get it, but don't force others to cough up $60 because it worked for you OK !!!! By the way, people that complained then , will keep complaining now, and in the future ! I like to be able to choose what I buy, and not follow what Europeans do at every turn !!! The sucking up must stop !
#42
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It's a terrible idea !!!! Why not spec everything: the Car , the radio, the wires, the Bearings in the Car, the Car polish......etc... Too much spec kills everything.. It sounds like SOCIALISM to me.... No way baby!!! If the cirtix is better than your other stuff, then get it, but don't force others to cough up $60 because it worked for you OK !!!! By the way, people that complained then , will keep complaining now, and in the future ! I like to be able to choose what I buy, and not follow what Europeans do at every turn !!! The sucking up must stop !
#43
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I only like it because it makes tech at events FAR easier. Personally, I'd still prefer to choose my own speedo, rather than having to have a "one from each brand" scenario like the bid process could create. I'm not too keen on the idea of renting an ESC someone else has already driven in anger. Electronics are finicky........
#44
I know you are not comparing Europe to America ! We have far more diversity , and less time as a nation to figure it all out, but we have always done things our way regardless of whether the European way worked for them or not... Nothing's stopping you from joining them buddy ....
#45
I know you are not comparing Europe to America ! We have far more diversity , and less time as a nation to figure it all out, but we have always done things our way regardless of whether the European way worked for them or not... Nothing's stopping you from joining them buddy ....
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