Durango DEX210 Thread
#1291
I think I am missing something on the setup, because everyone is talking about so much steering and I have had none of that! I will give it a go little bit later today, but I have been having so little on-power steering in all of the setups.
The only cure I have found so far is gobs of toe-out (3º!).
But that is masking the problem. Everyone that pushes down on the front is amazed at how stiff it is. So now I am back to being close to box stock setup and 25F/35R for shock oil.
This is the most stable car through the bumpy stuff out there. It out-handles just about anything and does it with style. If I can get rid of the on-power push, it will be stellar.
The only cure I have found so far is gobs of toe-out (3º!).
But that is masking the problem. Everyone that pushes down on the front is amazed at how stiff it is. So now I am back to being close to box stock setup and 25F/35R for shock oil.
This is the most stable car through the bumpy stuff out there. It out-handles just about anything and does it with style. If I can get rid of the on-power push, it will be stellar.
#1292
Tech Champion
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I think I ma missing something on the setup, because everyone is talking about so much steering and I have had none of that! I will give it a go little bit later today, but I have been having so little on-power steering in all of the setups.
The only cure I have found so far is gobs of toe-out (3º!).
But that is masking the problem. Everyone that pushes down on the front is amazed at how stiff it is. So now I am back to being close to box stock setup and 25F/35R for shock oil.
This is the most stable car through the bumpy stuff out there. It out-handles just about anything and does it with style. If I can get rid of the on-power push, it will be stellar.
The only cure I have found so far is gobs of toe-out (3º!).
But that is masking the problem. Everyone that pushes down on the front is amazed at how stiff it is. So now I am back to being close to box stock setup and 25F/35R for shock oil.
This is the most stable car through the bumpy stuff out there. It out-handles just about anything and does it with style. If I can get rid of the on-power push, it will be stellar.
#1294
Tech Champion
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Here's a link on how to run 25deg of caster
http://www.team-durango.com/blog/?p=4622
just cut down a zero deg toe-in insert to use as a caster insert
http://www.team-durango.com/blog/?p=4622
just cut down a zero deg toe-in insert to use as a caster insert
#1295
Originally Posted by Cpt.America
You have a problem then... my dex out of the box has a very very soft front end. If your front end is really stiff, and are running too much droop, you will have steering issues.
Look forward to a quick test today to see.
#1297
#1299
Tech Lord
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I know the difference between handling of 4wd vs 2wd. Have had B4 and 2 22's with no problem in the steering department.
I have adjusted droop and it has helped. It works OK, but I can't drive it like I was my 22, out of a corner. Hoping the lighter oil will tell me something good. Maybe I have a 22 driving style...
Look forward to a quick test today to see.
I have adjusted droop and it has helped. It works OK, but I can't drive it like I was my 22, out of a corner. Hoping the lighter oil will tell me something good. Maybe I have a 22 driving style...
Look forward to a quick test today to see.
#1300
I am running the 3 & 3 block in the rear. Less would mean less front grip, so I am thinking of leaving that alone. (correct me if I am wrong here)
Front droop is confusing to measure - from where to where? On the setup sheet it looks like you should measure the visible shock piston length, but there are no setup sheets with the numbers in there. So If I am to run 78mm of droop, where do I measure that?
Right now, I have about 7mm of droop from ride height. Basically, when the car is settled and you lift the front, the arms droop about 7mm before hitting the stops. Before I was running about 12mm of droop. Testing at lunch today to see what worked.
Front droop is confusing to measure - from where to where? On the setup sheet it looks like you should measure the visible shock piston length, but there are no setup sheets with the numbers in there. So If I am to run 78mm of droop, where do I measure that?
Right now, I have about 7mm of droop from ride height. Basically, when the car is settled and you lift the front, the arms droop about 7mm before hitting the stops. Before I was running about 12mm of droop. Testing at lunch today to see what worked.
#1301
I think I am missing something on the setup, because everyone is talking about so much steering and I have had none of that! I will give it a go little bit later today, but I have been having so little on-power steering in all of the setups.
If I can get rid of the on-power push, it will be stellar.
If I can get rid of the on-power push, it will be stellar.
Reduce front droop. Also don't be scared to add weight to the front. I added an oz behind the servo and it helped out huge. Also if your rear end is too soft this will transfer all of the weight to the rear under acceleration. Don't be afraid to go to a stiffer spring or stand up your rear shocks.
Toe is the wrong adjustment to get on power steering most of the time.
#1302
I am running the 3 & 3 block in the rear. Less would mean less front grip, so I am thinking of leaving that alone. (correct me if I am wrong here)
Front droop is confusing to measure - from where to where? On the setup sheet it looks like you should measure the visible shock piston length, but there are no setup sheets with the numbers in there. So If I am to run 78mm of droop, where do I measure that?
Right now, I have about 7mm of droop from ride height. Basically, when the car is settled and you lift the front, the arms droop about 7mm before hitting the stops. Before I was running about 12mm of droop. Testing at lunch today to see what worked.
Front droop is confusing to measure - from where to where? On the setup sheet it looks like you should measure the visible shock piston length, but there are no setup sheets with the numbers in there. So If I am to run 78mm of droop, where do I measure that?
Right now, I have about 7mm of droop from ride height. Basically, when the car is settled and you lift the front, the arms droop about 7mm before hitting the stops. Before I was running about 12mm of droop. Testing at lunch today to see what worked.
#1303
Thanks Randy - I will measure what I have and adjust from there.
Appreciate the help guys! Like I said, if this car turn as well as it handles, it will be stupid fast!
Appreciate the help guys! Like I said, if this car turn as well as it handles, it will be stupid fast!
#1304
#1305
Tech Lord
iTrader: (52)
I am running the 3 & 3 block in the rear. Less would mean less front grip, so I am thinking of leaving that alone. (correct me if I am wrong here)
Front droop is confusing to measure - from where to where? On the setup sheet it looks like you should measure the visible shock piston length, but there are no setup sheets with the numbers in there. So If I am to run 78mm of droop, where do I measure that?
Right now, I have about 7mm of droop from ride height. Basically, when the car is settled and you lift the front, the arms droop about 7mm before hitting the stops. Before I was running about 12mm of droop. Testing at lunch today to see what worked.
Front droop is confusing to measure - from where to where? On the setup sheet it looks like you should measure the visible shock piston length, but there are no setup sheets with the numbers in there. So If I am to run 78mm of droop, where do I measure that?
Right now, I have about 7mm of droop from ride height. Basically, when the car is settled and you lift the front, the arms droop about 7mm before hitting the stops. Before I was running about 12mm of droop. Testing at lunch today to see what worked.
Randy, are you measuring from the very center of each eyelet?