80LikesDurango DEX210 Thread
10-28-2011, 09:27 AM
#1306
Yup!
This takes out the shocks having to be the exact length(although I build them to exact lengths anyhow).
The way you guys are measuring droop works fine as long as you all use the same chassis height on the table.
This is a pretty accepted way to measure droop in offroad.
This takes out the shocks having to be the exact length(although I build them to exact lengths anyhow).
The way you guys are measuring droop works fine as long as you all use the same chassis height on the table.
This is a pretty accepted way to measure droop in offroad.
10-28-2011, 09:39 AM
#1307
Yup!
This takes out the shocks having to be the exact length(although I build them to exact lengths anyhow).
The way you guys are measuring droop works fine as long as you all use the same chassis height on the table.
This is a pretty accepted way to measure droop in offroad.
This takes out the shocks having to be the exact length(although I build them to exact lengths anyhow).
The way you guys are measuring droop works fine as long as you all use the same chassis height on the table.
This is a pretty accepted way to measure droop in offroad.
Last edited by Cpt.America; 10-28-2011 at 10:53 AM.
10-28-2011, 10:15 AM
#1308
Well the diff in Cush's car got roached pretty badly last weekend, and upon inspection last night it was apparent that his mechanic didn't set it properly. So as I waited for my shipment from BFast to come today, I cleaned and prepped everything so when I get home all that has to be done is drop the new balls in and re-assemble the car. The thrust is still like new, though I cleaned it and regreased it anyway. The rings were pretty bad so they got flipped and finish sanded, but not much was needed as they are very flat out of the box.
BFast has both carbide and ceramic balls in sets of 14, as well as the caged thrust and "raced" washers. They are expecting to have rings soon, but as of now they do not. I'm anxious to see the improvement in what is already one of the finest diffs in the business.
BFast has both carbide and ceramic balls in sets of 14, as well as the caged thrust and "raced" washers. They are expecting to have rings soon, but as of now they do not. I'm anxious to see the improvement in what is already one of the finest diffs in the business.
10-28-2011, 10:17 AM
#1309
So keep that in mind, because that will change the dimension!
10-28-2011, 10:33 AM
#1311
True guys. However most of us offroad guys don't use a chassis block to measure the down travel.
Assuming the shocks are in the same mounting locations this will give an accurate down travel measurement.
Assuming the shocks are in the same mounting locations this will give an accurate down travel measurement.
10-28-2011, 10:38 AM
#1313
You are correct. 3 degrees of anti-squat will keep more pressure on the front tires under acceleration. You measure droop the way that I measure droop as well, which is how much the chassis rises before the tires lift the ground. I guess this stems from my onroad experience, which is how we all measure droop. Iv never measured eyelet-to-eyelet like Randy is showing here. However, it might be a good idea to start measuring it that way if everybody else is, so we can have some kind of consistency.
Randy, are you measuring from the very center of each eyelet?
Randy, are you measuring from the very center of each eyelet?
10-28-2011, 10:39 AM
#1314
Here is another reason why measuring the shock length and interpreting it as droop is a bad idea:
Here is a hypothetical situation, with completely made up numbers:
Lets say I am running my shocks at 75mm. My ride height at 25mm, but my actual droop is 10mm (chassis rise). Lets say randy is going to go off my setup, but he likes a much lower car. So, he sets his shock length measurement at 75mm, his ride height at 20mm (5mm lower). Randy will end up with the same length shock measurement, but 15mm of droop instead of my 10.
The only way to accurately measure droop... is to actually measure droop.
Here is a hypothetical situation, with completely made up numbers:
Lets say I am running my shocks at 75mm. My ride height at 25mm, but my actual droop is 10mm (chassis rise). Lets say randy is going to go off my setup, but he likes a much lower car. So, he sets his shock length measurement at 75mm, his ride height at 20mm (5mm lower). Randy will end up with the same length shock measurement, but 15mm of droop instead of my 10.
The only way to accurately measure droop... is to actually measure droop.
10-28-2011, 10:40 AM
#1315
so you're measuring by pushing up on the chassis with a ruler until the tires leave the ground?
I'm not following I guess.
I'm not following I guess.
10-28-2011, 10:42 AM
#1316
Measuring the shock length is a good start, but isn't actually measuring droop, and things like ride height or shock angle will change your droop settings, even though your shock lengths or droop screws haven't changed.
Last edited by Cpt.America; 10-28-2011 at 11:02 AM.
10-28-2011, 11:02 AM
#1318
Here's a link on how to run 25deg of caster
http://www.team-durango.com/blog/?p=4622
just cut down a zero deg toe-in insert to use as a caster insert
http://www.team-durango.com/blog/?p=4622
just cut down a zero deg toe-in insert to use as a caster insert
this thread moves too fast though to keep up with some stuff
I bow down to the master 
... seriously, sorry for the repost 