Racing4Evo

iTrader: (2)

Nope. Where are you?

Ice_nl

The compression feels fine, when cold its hard to turn over and when the engine is warmed up i can still feel the compression. I never clean my air filters as i put a new one on every day i drive the car. I don't use after run in my engine's after driving as i was told that wasn't necessary with the ROGA fuel i use. The only time i do use after run is when rebuilding the engine. I don't really temp tune, i look how the engine performs and if there is a nice trail of smoke coming out of the engine. I did temp the engine when the problems started to see if it was running to hot but it was running at around 100C to 120C which seems fine to me.

Slo-MTX4

iTrader: (1)

Can i ask why you arent running the F series plugs? The C series are for offroad engines and from memory are slightly longer in the body. I mistakenly ran c series plugs one before and had the same problem as you. I even changed plugs and restarted the engine got out of pit lane into turn 2 and it stopped. When i realised what plugs i had, i changed them back to F and problem solved. Hope this helps

wallyedmonds

F and C refer to temp of the plug, F cold C hot. its not onroad or offroad.

ziggy12345

The number defines the heat. 6 is hotter than 7 and determines the gauge of the wire used. The C and F is the length of the body. F is long body or Fredo (Cold). C is short body or Hot (Caldo)

The G is if its a gold connector and the T is for Turbo so a C6TGF plug is 6 gauge wire turbo plug with a gold connector and a long body

Cheers

cdelong

iTrader: (12)

the 6 does not mean it is a 6 gauge wire.... that would be huge- like twice the size of your house wiring. It's just a number designation for sizing and nothing to do with the gauge size.

I just checked a few new plugs. The size of a #6 wire is 360 microns (.36mm= 27 gauge wire)- the #7 is just under 330 microns (.33mm= 28 gauge wire)- just about .0016" difference.

nice conversion chart- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge

Ice_nl

Ok, so how do i know which plug i need? The engine i have is a Mega MF. As i told the LHS which engine i had and that i needed some plugs for it. they didn't asked long or short only if i needed cold or hot plugs. I also checked the other plugs i have and there where some F and C series. So i think the LHS got the plugs mixed up.

Team Kamikaze

iTrader: (3)

The recommended plug for the Mega MF .12 is C5TC or C6TC.

Ice_nl

tnx, ill go to the track tomorrow and use the C plugs, really hope that solves the problem, could using the F plug have done any damage to the engine?

Slo-MTX4

iTrader: (1)

Well i am looking at the back of a nova plug packet now and it clearly states C plugs are long body and F are short body, NOT temprature. Both C and F plugs have the same heat ranges. When i spoke to the novarossi distributor here as well as several expirienced racers they both said the same thing and that is that C plugs are designed for off road engines.

So Ice as i said in my previous post give the F plugs a try, as when i ran the C plugs i had exactly the same problem as you, it may or may not fix it but it wont hurt your engine trying them.

Scott Fisher

iTrader: (28)

I have run both C series and F series plugs in my onroad engines. I am going to ask Jim soon, but I believe you guys are both right and both wrong. The C plugs are the long body, and the F series are short body. (Although in the package they look like they are the same length.) The length of the body will make a difference in how "hot" they are. With the same diameter wire the C series is a hotter plug. I believe C stands for Caliente which is Spanish for Hot. I believe the F stands for Frio which in Spanish means cold. I don't know if one or the other has anything to do with on or off road engines. This is the first I have ever heard of that. I am not sure of all this, but that is what I think.

cdelong

iTrader: (12)

the length of the body would probably have a small impact on compression ratio as well.

i tend to stick with the F short body plugs since that is what comes with my .21 on-road engines. if you stick a long body (C) plug in there, you are raising the compression marginally.

Team Kamikaze

iTrader: (3)

Nova Rossi is Italian and C stands for Calda "Hot" and F for Fredda "COLD" ,you are right Caliente is Hot in Spanish but Nova Rossi is made in Italy not Spain, just trying to clarify things here.

Scott Fisher

iTrader: (28)

I know that they are made in Italy. However I am definitely ignorant about the Italian language. I just made an assumption. Many languages borrow words from other languages. Companies also use words from other languages to name their products. The city I live in is named in Spanish, but I don't live in Spain. I guess the Italian words for hot and cold coincidentally start with the same letters as the Spanish words.

Corse-R

Definitely wrong. The main difference between the 'C' and 'F' is on the height of the part that protrudes over the button (in more graphical terms: the height of the hex you use for tightening) and this is what makes their difference in heat transfer from the combustion chamber to the air.

A 'C' and 'F' plugs protrude the same on the combustion chamber, so the compression could not be different between them.

Being conical at the end of the combustion chamber, you cannot insert more the plug unless you do a gorilla tighten and break the plug button or strip the treads.